| Calder Njalsenn |
Good evening everyone,
for my first post I am humbly seeking an answer on the workings of the Kinetic Blade.
In its description it says "[...] using this wild talent doesn’t provoke any additional attacks of opportunity".
Now, my dilemma is based on the word additional: does it still provoke an AOO because it is still a Spell-Like Ability? Does it refer to a potential AOO triggered by gather power?
Every post I read on Kinetic Blade assume that it does not provoke AOO but the word "additional" is keeping me awake at night.
I sincerely apologise because i am sure there have already been plenty of discussions on this but i cannot for the life of me find them. Also, my thanks in advance to anyone who will decide to help!
| bbangerter |
By default, SLA's provoke an AoO. So to override that default we need something telling us it does not provoke. (By default SLA's are also a standard action).
You can use this form infusion once as part of an attack action, a charge action, or a full-attack action in order to make melee attacks with your kinetic blade. Since it’s part of another action (and isn’t an action itself), using this wild talent doesn’t provoke any additional attacks of opportunity. The kinetic blade deals your kinetic blast damage on each hit (applying any modifiers to your kinetic blast’s damage as normal, but not your Strength modifier). The blade disappears at the end of your turn. The weapon deals the same damage type that your kinetic blast deals, and it interacts with Armor Class and spell resistance as normal for a blast of its type. Even if a telekineticist uses this power on a magic weapon or another unusual object, the attack doesn’t use any of the magic weapon’s bonuses or effects and simply deals the telekineticist’s blast damage. The kinetic blade doesn’t add the damage bonus from elemental overflow.
Because this is not its own specific action, but part of another action, what we care about here is whether the other action that we are using this as part of provokes or not. So I might make a full-attack, creating a kinetic blade as part of my full attack. I would not provoke any AoOs if I just use this to stab my opponent. If I instead tried a bunch of disarm or trips with my full-attack though (and did not have improved disarm/trip feats), each of those would provoke as normal. Forming the kinetic blade would itself not add any additional AoOs than whatever action I'm taking would.
TLDR: Using kinetic blade does not provke an AoO. The action we are using the kinetic blade with may or may not provoke - depending on the action and other circumstances.
| Calder Njalsenn |
By default, SLA's provoke an AoO. So to override that default we need something telling us it does not provoke. (By default SLA's are also a standard action).
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You can use this form infusion once as part of an attack action, a charge action, or a full-attack action in order to make melee attacks with your kinetic blade. Since it’s part of another action (and isn’t an action itself), using this wild talent doesn’t provoke any additional attacks of opportunity. The kinetic blade deals your kinetic blast damage on each hit (applying any modifiers to your kinetic blast’s damage as normal, but not your Strength modifier). The blade disappears at the end of your turn. The weapon deals the same damage type that your kinetic blast deals, and it interacts with Armor Class and spell resistance as normal for a blast of its type. Even if a telekineticist uses this power on a magic weapon or another unusual object, the attack doesn’t use any of the magic weapon’s bonuses or effects and simply deals the telekineticist’s blast damage. The kinetic blade doesn’t add the damage bonus from elemental overflow.
Because this is not its own specific action, but part of another action, what we care about here is whether the other action that we are using this as part of provokes or not. So I might make a full-attack, creating a kinetic blade as part of my full attack. I would not provoke any AoOs if I just use this to stab my opponent. If I instead tried a bunch of disarm or trips with my full-attack though (and did not have improved disarm/trip feats), each of those would provoke as normal. Forming the kinetic blade would itself not add any additional AoOs than whatever action I'm taking would.
TLDR: Using kinetic blade does not provke an AoO. The action we are using the kinetic blade with may or may not provoke - depending on the action and other circumstances.
Thank you, thank you very much! The explanation is really quite clear. A friend of mine had postulated something similar but getting a confirmation on the Paizo Forum is always better.