The Shield


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My PC is a Human Warpriest that uses the Shieldbearer archetype.

I wonder how would the shield's enchantments work in this case:

Since:

Sacred Weapon (Su) wrote:
A shieldbearer treats shields as sacred weapons

And:

Sacred Shield (Su) wrote:
A shieldbearer gains the ability to enhance his shield with divine power as a swift action. This ability functions as the sacred armor ability, except as follows. This power grants the shield a +1 enhancement bonus (this bonus does not act as an attack or damage bonus when the shield is used in a shield bash)

And:

Sacred Weapons (Su) wrote:

At 4th level, the warpriest gains the ability to enhance one of his sacred weapons with divine power as a swift action. This power grants the weapon a +1 enhancement bonus

(In this case the Shieldbearer gets this ability at level 7 but it's irrelevant)

And the question is: If the warpriest reaches level 7 will he be able to enhance the shield both as an armor and as a weapon?

Can i make the shield both Flaming and Blinding for example? How would this interact with a Bashing Shield?

My conclusions are the following:
The shield can be enhanced both as a weapon and as a shield and the slots of the enhancements are separated.

About the Bashing enhancement i think it would effectively change the Base damage and make it act as a +1 weapon (Unless it gets an higher bonus somehow)

Does this look correct? Thank you in advance.


So let's take the case that you have a +2 bashing shield as your sacred gear.

- The +2 is not a "weapon enhancement bonus," it's a "shield enhancement bonus."
- Bashing does not convert your shield EnhB to weapon EnhB. It simply allows you to treat the shield as a +1 weapon while bashing. If it already is one (due to you installing a weapon EnhB somehow,) then bashing doesn't give that part of the benefit.

Under magic items, armor/shield section:

CRB wrote:

Shield enhancement bonuses stack with armor enhancement bonuses. Shield enhancement bonuses do not act as attack or damage bonuses when the shield is used in a shield bash. The bashing special ability, however, does grant a +1 bonus on attack and damage rolls (see the special ability description).

A shield could be built that also acted as a magic weapon, but the cost of the enhancement bonus on attack rolls would need to be added into the cost of the shield and its enhancement bonus to AC.

So this is what I think at 7th:

- Blinding is no problem; your shield has a shield EnhB.
- Can't do flaming, because the shield doesn't have a weapon EnhB; you need to give it a +1 first.


Sandslice wrote:

So let's take the case that you have a +2 bashing shield as your sacred gear.

- The +2 is not a "weapon enhancement bonus," it's a "shield enhancement bonus."
- Bashing does not convert your shield EnhB to weapon EnhB. It simply allows you to treat the shield as a +1 weapon while bashing. If it already is one (due to you installing a weapon EnhB somehow,) then bashing doesn't give that part of the benefit.

Under magic items, armor/shield section:

CRB wrote:

Shield enhancement bonuses stack with armor enhancement bonuses. Shield enhancement bonuses do not act as attack or damage bonuses when the shield is used in a shield bash. The bashing special ability, however, does grant a +1 bonus on attack and damage rolls (see the special ability description).

A shield could be built that also acted as a magic weapon, but the cost of the enhancement bonus on attack rolls would need to be added into the cost of the shield and its enhancement bonus to AC.

So this is what I think at 7th:

- Blinding is no problem; your shield has a shield EnhB.
- Can't do flaming, because the shield doesn't have a weapon EnhB; you need to give it a +1 first.

So i can give it weapon enhancements bonus! That's the answer i was looking for, Thank you!


Won't qualify for it anytime soon... but Shield Master Feat allows you to "Add your shield's enhancement bonus to attacks and damage rolls made with the shield as if it was a weapon enhancement bonus."

Bless Equipment is something you should be able to get right away that will stack some abilities on your shield.

Can upgrade that with Align Equipment eventually.

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