| drakinar 451 |
So my group is doing the slithering in campaign mode to play test the new classes. We have a summoner and to magi. one is sustaining steel and I am playing a slide casting magus. We decided to play by the strict rule of law on it as we are playtesting and home ruling a bunch of stuff defeats the purpose. We hit an interesting situation when we encountered the invisible stalker.
When the invisible stalker attack he becomes hidden and not invisible.
Source Core Rulebook pg. 620 1.1
While you’re hidden from a creature, that creature knows the space you’re in but can’t tell precisely where you are. You typically become hidden by using Stealth to Hide. When Seeking a creature using only imprecise senses, it remains hidden, rather than observed. A creature you’re hidden from is flat-footed to you, and it must succeed at a DC 11 flat check when targeting you with an attack, spell, or other effect or it fails affect you. Area effects aren’t subject to this flat check.A creature might be able to use the Seek action to try to observe you.
Since spell strike requires it's own attack roll then by RAW you have to roll the DC 11 flat check for both the melee attack and the spell attack just like a fighter making multiple attacks or our hunter in the group doing dual swing. This made life a living hell for us. combined with it's innate fly speed our sustaining steel magus gave up trying to spell strike completely as he could never get near it and even then the misses where piling up. I had taken 10 scrolls of truestrike and handed him one of my bandoliers of them as all we could do was truestrike, move and strike.
They really need some clause that states the spell attack is not subject to hidden and concealed targets.
P.S. all slimes can go to hell.