Situation: My 7th level Barbarian rolls a success in a Fortitude saving throw from a Disintegrate spell that critically hitted him
What situation should happen:
A) The result becomes a failure since being critically hit from a Disintegrate spell worsens the result by one step.
B) The result becomes a success because of "Juggernaut":When you roll a success on a Fortitude save, you get a critical success instead, and then because he was critically hit worsens to a result.
(B) Both effects apply. Note Juggernaut's wording is about what you rolled (definitely sucess) not what you got (arguably a failure due to the crit hit), so there is no ambiguity.
(B) Both effects apply. Note Juggernaut's wording is about what you rolled (definitely sucess) not what you got (arguably a failure due to the crit hit), so there is no ambiguity.
Then, practical example with numbers:
7th Level Barbarian gets critically "Disintegrated", the Fortitude Save DC is 24 my barbarian rolls a 26 which is a success becoming a critical succes due to Juggernaut and then since he was critically struck downgrades again to a success?
(B) Both effects apply. Note Juggernaut's wording is about what you rolled (definitely sucess) not what you got (arguably a failure due to the crit hit), so there is no ambiguity.Then, practical example with numbers:
7th Level Barbarian gets critically "Disintegrated", the Fortitude Save DC is 24 my barbarian rolls a 26 which is a success becoming a critical succes due to Juggernaut and then since he was critically struck downgrades again to a success?
Yes.
Note that if you do it in the other order, first downgrading (to a failure) and then applying juggernaut (which only cares that you rolled a success) to make it a critical success, you run headlong into the general rule that any given ability can only adjust the degree of success/failure by one step. So you end up going failure => success and getting the same end result.
(B) Both effects apply. Note Juggernaut's wording is about what you rolled (definitely sucess) not what you got (arguably a failure due to the crit hit), so there is no ambiguity.Then, practical example with numbers:
7th Level Barbarian gets critically "Disintegrated", the Fortitude Save DC is 24 my barbarian rolls a 26 which is a success becoming a critical succes due to Juggernaut and then since he was critically struck downgrades again to a success?
Yes.
Note that if you do it in the other order, first downgrading (to a failure) and then applying juggernaut (which only cares that you rolled a success) to make it a critical success, you run headlong into the general rule that any given ability can only adjust the degree of success/failure by one step. So you end up going failure => success and getting the same end result.
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