Lycanthropy Curse Oracle question

[Combusto]

So I’m looking at building a Lunar Mystery Oracle and it seems like Lycanthropy is a fitting curse to go with it. The curse indicates you can speak with animals while in times of stress and it doesn’t interfere with spell casting, except it interferes with spells that are language dependent (though I suppose animals would be effected by those spells now, because you’re speaking their language, seems a logical leap.) Since Oracle curses tend to “stick” I imagine the effect is still in place even if change forms via polymorph etc, I’m wondering if you Beast shape (with either one of the curse spells or the Lunar revelation) that you can still speak with animals, and possibly cast spells with only verbal components, because from a speaking perspective you should be in no worse position then in your original form.

Does this sound like it might be valid? I would likely be a blessed or touched devotee of Ashava (empyreal lord of good lycanthropes and lonely spirits) with a wolf companion (obviously would be wolf lycanthrope cursed.) As a further idea I was thinking of being a Spirit Guide dual cursed Oracle with the Deafness curse as well, in that the character was given the gift to hear the laments and songs of the spirits, at the cost of normal hearing. If the answer to the above is that verbal casting in beast shape would be possible with the Lycanthropy curse I likely wouldn’t take the Deafness curse as well, to make the character easier to interact with. Thanks for any insight! BTW, Lycanthropy curse only seems to effect your speaking, not your ability to hear language, otherwise I feel it would specify that normal language you hear is garbled or unintelligible, so the reference to Tongues should just be in relation to your ability to speak. Thanks again all!

[Derklord]

Combusto wrote:

Since Oracle curses tend to “stick” I imagine the effect is still in place even if change forms via polymorph etc, I’m wondering if you Beast shape (with either one of the curse spells or the Lunar revelation) that you can still speak with animals, and possibly cast spells with only verbal components, because from a speaking perspective you should be in no worse position then in your original form.

RAW, no. "When you cast a polymorph spell that changes you into a creature of the animal, dragon, elemental, magical beast, plant, or vermin type, (...) [you] can only cast spells with somatic or verbal components if the form you choose has the capability to make such movements or speak, such as a dragon." (CRB pg. 212) No matter the difference to your natural form, a dire tiger can't speak for the purpose of that rule.

However, your ability to speak does not stay the same, anyway, because while you can only speak 'animalistic', you can apparently speak with all animals. That's a huge spectrum of noises you can make. From the curse not hampering spellcasting, I reason that verbal spell components can be done by using a mixture of different animal noises. Meanwhile, when polymorphed into, say, a lion, you can only speak 'lionese', which is not enough to cast spells.