Massive Weapons


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Just so I have this clearly in mind and sorted for all available weapon size categories... this is correct?

Massive Weapons:

At 3rd level, a titan mauler becomes skilled in the use of massive weapons looted from her titanic foes.

She can use two-handed weapons meant for creatures one size category larger, but the penalty for doing so is increased by 4. However, the attack roll penalty for using weapons too large for her size is reduced by 1, and this reduction increases by 1 for every three levels beyond 3rd (to a minimum of 0).

This ability replaces trap sense.

In Plain English:
Oversize 2H weapon is -4. This includes BOWS and melee weapons.

Large 1H weapon wielded as a 2H Medium weapon is -1. (-2 size +1 MW bonus = -1 total)

2H Medium weapon is a -2 in one hand (Jutongrip).

Large 1H weapon wielded by Medium Creature in 1H (Jutongrip) is -3. (1 size (-2+1) + -2 (Jutogrip))

A Huge Light weapon wielded as a 2H weapon is a -3 to a medium creature. (-4 for 2 sizes (+)-1/3lvls, including 3rd)

Huge Light weapon wielded as a 2H weapon in 1H is a -5 to a medium creature (Jutongrip).

Huge 1H Weapon wielded as a 2H oversize weapon is a -7 to a medium creature (MW).

Gargantuan light weapons as a oversize (Large) 2H weapon at -9 to medium creature (MW).

Is that pretty much every combo, and are the stacked minuses correct (As far as I could tell this was right)

Liberty's Edge

maouse33 wrote:
Oversize 2H weapon is -4. This includes BOWS and melee weapons.

The normal -2 penalty is "increased by 4", but the total penalty is decreased by 1 at 1st, 6th, 9th, 12th, 15th, and 18th. So;

1st -5
6th -4
9th -3
12th -2
15th -1
18th No penalty

maouse33 wrote:
Large 1H weapon wielded as a 2H Medium weapon is -1. (-2 size +1 MW bonus = -1 total)

Yes, but it drops to no penalty at 6th.

maouse33 wrote:
2H Medium weapon is a -2 in one hand (Jutongrip).

Yes.

maouse33 wrote:
Large 1H weapon wielded by Medium Creature in 1H (Jutongrip) is -3. (1 size (-2+1) + -2 (Jutogrip))

Can't be done. Jotungrip requires the weapon "be appropriately sized" for the wielder.

maouse33 wrote:

A Huge Light weapon wielded as a 2H weapon is a -3 to a medium creature. (-4 for 2 sizes (+)-1/3lvls, including 3rd)

Huge Light weapon wielded as a 2H weapon in 1H is a -5 to a medium creature (Jutongrip).

Huge 1H Weapon wielded as a 2H oversize weapon is a -7 to a medium creature (MW).

Gargantuan light weapons as a oversize (Large) 2H weapon at -9 to medium creature (MW).

Can't be done. Massive Weapons only works with items "one size category larger"

Liberty's Edge

Correction: S/B 3rd level rather than 1st for the initial Massive Weapons size penalty reduction.

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