Lunge


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Shouldn't Lunge Feat have the attack trait?

Quote:

LUNGE [one-action] FEAT 2

FIGHTER
Requirement You are wielding a melee weapon.
Extending your body to its limits, you attack an enemy that
would normally be beyond your reach. Make a Strike with a
melee weapon, increasing your reach by 5 feet for that Strike.
If the weapon has the disarm, shove, or trip trait, you can use
the corresponding action instead of a Strike.

I assume it takes the place of one of your Attack Actions?

Or can you "Lunge Strike" as your first attack Action
Melee Strike as you second action (still on your first attack penalty)
then say "Lunge Strike" again using your second attack penalty?

Page 446 under Multiple Attack Penalty wrote:
Every check that has the attack trait counts toward your multiple attack penalty, including Strikes, spell attack rolls, certain skill actions like Shove, and many others.

Are we assuming the the fact the Lunge has a Strike Component it inherits the Strike Action traits? IE Lunge has the Attack trait?


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willot wrote:

Shouldn't Lunge Feat have the attack trait?

Quote:

LUNGE [one-action] FEAT 2

FIGHTER
Requirement You are wielding a melee weapon.
Extending your body to its limits, you attack an enemy that
would normally be beyond your reach. Make a Strike with a
melee weapon, increasing your reach by 5 feet for that Strike.
If the weapon has the disarm, shove, or trip trait, you can use
the corresponding action instead of a Strike.

I assume it takes the place of one of your Attack Actions?

Or can you "Lunge Strike" as your first attack Action
Melee Strike as you second action (still on your first attack penalty)
then say "Lunge Strike" again using your second attack penalty?

Page 446 under Multiple Attack Penalty wrote:
Every check that has the attack trait counts toward your multiple attack penalty, including Strikes, spell attack rolls, certain skill actions like Shove, and many others.

Are we assuming the the fact the Lunge has a Strike Component it inherits the Strike Action traits? IE Lunge has the Attack trait?

As part of the Lunge you make a Strike, which has the Attack Trait.


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Yeah, there's lots of layered rules like that in 2nd Edition.

Nearly all spells have the manipulate trait and concentrate trait too, even though it's not normally shown. It comes from the components; material and somatic components add the manipulate trait, and verbal components add the concentrate trait, to a spell.


willot wrote:
Shouldn't Lunge Feat have the attack trait?

None of the attack action feats have. They just spell out that you makes strikes. Although Double Slice and Power Attack for example also explicitly mention how they are counted for MAP, because they deviate from the normal procedure, which Lunge does not.

Maybe that's where the hang-up comes from?

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