| Vextol |
Super noob with almost no Pathfinder experience so forgive my ignorance.
I'm sure this is somewhere and I'm just missing it but take a creature like Ghoul:
His melee attack does ghoul fever plus paralysis. So, if he hits (not deals damage?) does a PC have to to make one or two fortitude saving throws? Both are DC15 fortitude saving throws.
Thanks!!
| Derklord |
Melee bite +3 (1d6+1 plus disease and paralysis) and 2 claws +3 (1d6+1 plus paralysis)
This are three attacks. As a standard action (the attack action) the ghoul can make one of them, or if the ghoul takes a full-round action (the full-attakc action), he can make all three. In that case, each attack is resolved seperately, which can result in three saving throws. The ghoul could even switch targets (if another target is in range) after a target failed the save, exactly because each attack is seperately.
Edit: Ah, you mean just the bite. Yes, what Pizze Lord said. The two "on hit" abilities are resolved seperately.
CBDunkerson
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No, a successful attack alone is not enough. The attack must also do damage.
"Whenever damage reduction completely negates the damage from an attack, it also negates most special effects that accompany the attack, such as injury poison, a monk’s stunning, and injury-based disease. Damage Reduction does not negate touch attacks, energy damage dealt along with an attack, or energy drains. Nor does it affect poisons or diseases delivered by inhalation, ingestion, or contact."
The disease entry for ghouls specifically indicates that it is transmitted by injury, and neither special effect is attached to a touch attack. Ergo, both require damage to be done.