Charisma scores for R E Howard and H P Lovecraft


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Kinda hard; for me personally they'd be cha 16, but R E Howard kinda seemed a little on the antisocial side; don't know if a cha 16 would be a realistic stat for the "public at large, who didn't read Conan pulps...."


Pretty low I would think. Good writing doesn't dovetail necessarily well into being all Chruzimatic.

Scarab Sages

Considering none of us has ever met them, nor are they, as far as I know, any video documentations of them and the first hand biographies about both are pretty sketchy, I go with:
3d6 ⇒ (3, 4, 3) = 10 for Howard
and 3d6 ⇒ (6, 1, 6) = 13 for Lovecraft.
It is as accurate as any guess.

Liberty's Edge

From the biographies I've read of both, I can't imagine either one having scores high enough to be clerics.

I'd venture that Howard was much more genial, and Lovecraft probably intolerable to most people. I can imagine wanting to be Howard's friend and trying to avoid Lovecraft. I can imagine being frustrated by Howard's moodiness and fed-up with Lovecraft's antisocial tendencies.

Howard: 10
Lovecraft: 8


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Neither one has much in the way of charisma in Robert Silverberg's To the Land of the Living. Granted they're dead (it's the afterlife; everyone is dead) and this is one author's personal take (or perhaps critique) of them, and in all likelihood not a fair overall assessment of the two men as people rather than authors.


Cool book link; I'll have to check that out.

I guess the most biographical thing I have is The Whole Wide World movie, as well as the little Two Gun Bob snippets at the end of Conan comics.


I can tell, though, that Fritz Leiber was a character....

not that you couldn't tell from reading his stuff.....


Andrew Turner wrote:

From the biographies I've read of both, I can't imagine either one having scores high enough to be clerics.

I'd venture that Howard was much more genial, and Lovecraft probably intolerable to most people. I can imagine wanting to be Howard's friend and trying to avoid Lovecraft. I can imagine being frustrated by Howard's moodiness and fed-up with Lovecraft's antisocial tendencies.

Howard: 10
Lovecraft: 8

I think that 10 and 8 are about what I had figured.


Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:

Cool book link; I'll have to check that out.

I guess the most biographical thing I have is The Whole Wide World movie, as well as the little Two Gun Bob snippets at the end of Conan comics.

It's actually a sequel to his book Gilgamesh the King which is his version of the myth. Gilgamesh is the main character, obviously, and while in the afterlife ends up taking up an entourage of characters, including Lovecraft and Howard.

Silverberg takes some pretty low shots at them though. He basically describes Howard as a self-loathing closet homosexual, whose fantasies were embodied in his Conan character. Lovecraft is a spineless fellow who is pretty much afraid of everything.

That aside, Silverberg's vision of the afterlife is nothing if not unique.

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