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Grand Lodge

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Is every character untrained in every (possible) lore skill? (Excluding those lore skills they are specifically trained in, of course...)


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Yes, you are untrained in skills that you aren't trained in.


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This may not do you much good even if you've got Untrained Improvisation.

CRB page 233, Skill Actions wrote:
Anyone can use a skill’s untrained actions, but you can use trained actions only if you have a proficiency rank of trained or better in that skill. A circumstance, condition, or effect might bar you from a skill action regardless of your proficiency rank, and sometimes using a skill in a specific situation might require you to have a higher proficiency rank than what is listed on the table. For instance, even though a barbarian untrained in Arcana could identify a construct with a lucky roll using Arcana to Recall Knowledge, the GM might decide that Recalling Knowledge to determine the spells used to create such a construct is beyond the scope of the barbarian’s anecdotal knowledge. The GM decides whether a task requires a particular proficiency rank.

Presumably the fact that the barbarian is also untrained in This Construct Right Here Lore will be unhelpful for the same reason.

Grand Lodge

Got it, thanks!

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