DC of an Emissary Familiars Domain Influence ability?


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The Emissary Familiar Archetype has the ability Domain Influence, which reads:
"At 3rd level, the emissary gains a spark of divine power from the deity its master worships. Choose one of that deity’s domains that grants a 1st-level domain power usable a number of times per day equal to 3 + the user’s Wisdom modifier. The emissary can use that power once per day. This replaces deliver touch spells."

My question is how would the duration, or save DC, of this domain power be calculated?
Because the familiar would no levels in cleric, is it treated as having an effective cleric level of 0 when it comes to calculating a powers duration/save DC, or does the Familiar use its total hit dice/its masters level as an effective cleric level? Do you include the Familiars Wisdom modifier when working out the save DC?

I'm considering using this in PFS so any clarification here would be really useful


Most duration/save DC have a "1/2 your cleric level (minimum 1)" rule which would grant you at least a +1 for both of those. I would recommend finding one that isn't reliant on saves and has no extended duration. I feel like there's a fair share of those. It all comes down to the actual wording in the domain ability you're considering though.


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The Familiar Folio's introduction to its familiar archetypes (of which this is one) starts out with the following:

"Unless otherwise stated, levels referenced in this section refer to the familiar's effective level, which is the master's combined levels in the classes that grant that familiar."

Ultimate Wilderness has similar language in its corresponding section.

So the familiar should probably have an effective cleric level based on its master's level in classes that grant a familiar.

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CMantle wrote:

Most duration/save DC have a "1/2 your cleric level (minimum 1)" rule which would grant you at least a +1 for both of those. I would recommend finding one that isn't reliant on saves and has no extended duration. I feel like there's a fair share of those. It all comes down to the actual wording in the domain ability you're considering though.

Agreed. Most domains that I'm considering have the half your cleric level (minimum 1) rule. There's a lot of fun powers you can give a Familiar and I'm having a had time choosing a favourite.

For the sake of discussion though, what would happen with powers that don't have a minumum of 1 rule (the Light Subdomains Blinding Flash ability comes to mind here). It's not obvious what the effective cleric level of the Familiar should be in these situations.
RAW makes me think the Familiar has an effective cleric level of 0. However having looked at the Believers Boon feat, it specifically states that "Your effective cleric level in regard to this ability is 1st level" making me think RAI the Familiar has an effective cleric level of 1.

There's honestly not much difference between an effective cleric level of 1 or 0 with respect to save DCs or duration, I'm just curious as to what the answer would be at this point.

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