Hunted Shot and Twin Takedown - Ranger


Rules Discussion


This is the description of Hunted Shot and TT is similar:
"You take two quick shots against the one you hunt. Make two Strikes against your prey with the required weapon. If both hit the same creature, combine their damage for the purpose of resistances and weaknesses. Apply your multiple attack penalty to each Strike normally."

After reading this it looks like I take two shots and have to take the attack penalty on the second one, HOWEVER, this only takes one action. So then does my second action take the THIRD attack penalty? And what about my 3rd action?

The understanding I believe I came to this morning was this: If this is your first attack, no penalty on either shot. If this is your second attack in the round, both shots take the multiple attack penalty of -5 (or whatever it is for you) and likewise if it's your third attack in the round.

Does that sound right? The wording just isn't clear.


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First attack has no penalty.
Second has -5 (plus agile or class reductions)
Third and later are -10 (plus reductions). The penalty caps at this point and doesn't grow any further.

So if you're total bonus is +15, your first attack is +15
Second is +10
Third +5
Fourth is also +5
As is a fifth (which is possible if you haste a monk or ranger)

The only time the MAP doesn't apply is if the attack specifically says it doesn't. For example, the fighters exacting strike feat on a miss.

Flurry rangers with agile weapons are crazy little chopping fiends because of this.

But they do take the MAP with their feat attacks. That they're single action doesn't matter. First attack is -0, second -5 (probably reduced by hunters edge if they took that option) their second action (third attack) would be -10, because as the feat says, MAP applies normally, and that accounts for number of attacks, not actions.


Thanks! I just didn't get it. I also GM so it's a good clarification for me to understand.

Voss wrote:

First attack has no penalty.

Second has -5 (plus agile or class reductions)
Third and later are -10 (plus reductions). The penalty caps at this point and doesn't grow any further.

So if you're total bonus is +15, your first attack is +15
Second is +10
Third +5
Fourth is also +5
As is a fifth (which is possible if you haste a monk or ranger)

The only time the MAP doesn't apply is if the attack specifically says it doesn't. For example, the fighters exacting strike feat on a miss.

Flurry rangers with agile weapons are crazy little chopping fiends because of this.

But they do take the MAP with their feat attacks. That they're single action doesn't matter. First attack is -0, second -5 (probably reduced by hunters edge if they took that option) their second action (third attack) would be -10, because as the feat says, MAP applies normally, and that accounts for number of attacks, not actions.

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