Conversion Request - Bikendi Otongu & Spinel Sage proficiencies

[Yewstance]

I don't think there's a megathread just for discussion Conversion issues (and spamming the blog post with these requests seems inappropriate), so I'll just make a thread anytime I want to bring conversion issues up.

BACKGROUND:
The Skull & Shackles AP features Bikendi Otongu as a temporary replacement role card, and the Season 3: Season of Plundered Tombs AP features Spinel Sage as a temporary replacement role card. These cards replace your proficiencies entirely, and both are thematic for spellcasters (and, in fact, allow you to use spellcasting skills in combat like typical Sorcerers can).

However, the RAW is unclear as to whether these temporary roles would have Arcane or Divine proficiencies under various circumstances.

SOURCES:

Transition Guide wrote:

Treat [pre-Core] characters that have the Arcane or Divine skill as proficient with the corresponding trait.

That Transition Guide rule explicitly only applies to "cards from older sets", so it won't magically give Fumbus Arcane Proficiency just because he has the Arcane Skill, for example. As a result, if you're playing any post-Core character and you're given one of these roles, you should lose your Arcane/Divine proficiencies regardless of what skills you have. Core Ezren will find himself unable to retain/recharge spells when becoming Bikendi Otongu or Spinel Sage, for example.

Additionally, while Bikendi Otongu is supposed to give you the Arcane skill, if you're playing a post-Core character that shouldn't modify your proficiencies and thus no longer functions to actually make you a genuine spellcaster like it did pre-Core.

This is probably most relevant for Spinel Sage, as post-Core characters may very well still actively participate in Season 3 playthroughs in Organized Play, due to it offering player rewards that can't be attained in any other way.

CONVERSION REQUEST:
Bikendi Otongu and Spinel Sage to be given the Arcane and Divine proficiencies in the Conversion FAQ.

(It might be thematic to give them additional proficiencies - like "Undead" or "Incorporeal" for Bikendi Otongu, or perhaps instead give them the incredibly wide-reaching "Magic" proficiency to reflect their original design scope of being "sufficiently good with everything" to appeal to any party and make the possessed player feel powerful.)

[Brother Tyler]

I just added both of these to the spreadsheet for our conversion of legacy characters to Core Set formats yesterday. We're *almost* done populating that spreadsheet.

My guess (and initial stab at the conversion spreadsheet) is that both of these roles have the appropriate proficiencies as you requested. It's definitely worth discussion, though.

[Vic Wertz]

These are already on our radar.

(In a similar state: S&S Alahazra Tempest, MM Simoun Lightning Thief, Goblins Burn! Mogmurch, and Summoner CD Alase God Caller.)

[GM OfAnything]

Thanks, Vic

Alase is my go-to convention character