| Mhuirich |
Reveal this card and discard a spell to succeed at a check to recharge a spell; you may shuffle the spell you would recharge into your deck instead.
RAW, it appears I could use this on another player's check to recharge, and then shuffle their card into my deck. Should this be "on your check to recharge"?
| Yewstance |
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It probably should be "On your", but even as-written I think it works as intended, it's just a little clear. "Succeed at a check" is an action that 'You' implicitly make (as opposed to "add 2d8 to a check"); you cannot succeed on behalf of someone else (in general).
If it was meant to work on anyone's check, it'd say "to allow a player to succeed at a check". This turns up on some other keywords that have an implicit "You". For example, something that says "discard to evade a bane" only lets you evade a bane; otherwise it'd say "discard to allow a player to evade a bane". Same with "Ignore".
| Yewstance |
Hm... Yeah, I'm tempted to agree with Frencois that the second part clarifies it will only work for you.
I do still think "Succeed at a check" has an implicit you. If a card said "Discard this card to succeed at a Stealth check", I don't think it needs a 'your' to prevent it from being used on someone else's Stealth check. I think it would otherwise say "Discard this card to allow a [local/distant/other/etc] character to succeed at a Stealth check".
I'd need to see the effect turn up on more card types in more situations on post-Core cards to be certain of that templating intent, though.
| skizzerz |
Only works on your own checks. You can’t succeed at someone else’s check, and nobody else can succeed at your check.
This is part of “No One Else Can Take Your Turn For You” — if you’re the one making the check, you’re the only one that can succeed or fail at it. Nobody else can succeed or fail at the check on your behalf. A card would need to be very explicit if it was breaking this rule, such as Potion of the Ocean’s “Banish this card and choose a character at your location to succeed at a check to defeat a bane with the Aquatic trait.” (And, note that it has that character succeeding on the check, not you)
| Frencois |
That said, since it says "to succeed" and not "to allow someone else to succeed" (as cleverly pointed Yewstance") I think it can help someone else recharge only if you would be the one attempting the check for that other character to recharge her spell. So that look like a corner case.
Yo ninja'ed by skizzerz... damned he is good.