Dreamstalker question


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Dreamstalker Text from pacgwiki wrote:

During your explore step, discard this card to examine the top card of any location deck, then put that card on top of your location deck and encounter it.

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When you could attempt to temporarily close a location, discard this card to move and attempt to temporarily close your new location instead; after all attempts to temporarily close locations, move to your previous location.

My question is with the second power.

Scenario 1: Two people are at one location. Person A chooses to close, succeeds the closing condition. Can Person B still use the Dreamstalker? In Theory, he can no longer attempt to close. So he can no longer start the power.

If he can, that brings me to scenario 2: Character explores and its a villain. Can he use the dreamstalker to jump somewhere and close? Not gonna lie, thats really boss if he can do that.


In both scenarios, my guess is no.

In the first scenario, since the character's location is already temporarily closed, he can't attempt to temporarily close it.

In the second scenario, a character can't attempt to temporarily close the location at which the villain is encountered.

In both scenarios, the "When you could attempt to temporarily close a location" clause doesn't apply.


That was my guess.

but seems wrong that someone doesn't get to use their ally/power just because another player went first.


Slacker2010 wrote:

That was my guess.

but seems wrong that someone doesn't get to use their ally/power just because another player went first.

I get what you're saying, and that's such a low-impact corner case that it could easily be home-ruled (in effect, I believe the only reason for the RAW wording that obstructs that is, that Lone Shark would have very hard time wording it the other way around, and not because some fine-tuned balance)

Still, if you want to play by RAW - yeah, you would have to sacrifice the "insurance" of the Dreamstalker player going second (so he can cover for the first player, if they fail their Temp-close check) and go with them first.


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1. No. You can’t attempt to close a location that is already closed. As you don’t get an attempt, Dreamstalker has nothing to replace.

2. Also no. The villain encounter sequence says that characters at other locations get close attempts: “Before a character encounters a villain, each character at any other open location may immediately attempt to fulfill the When Closing requirement for his location;”. You aren’t at an “other open location” and therefore don’t get an attempt, and therefore Dreamstalker has nothing to replace once again.


Agreed with Longshot (as usual) : in scenario 1 persons A & B have to decide whether A goes somewhere else BEFORE B is trying to close locally. They take their chances. Decisions matter as would Mike say.

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