Waveblade? What's wrong with it?


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So, Personal curiosity, does anyone know, or any chance a Dev is willing to step forward and explain why the Waveblade from Adventurer's Armory 2 is not PFS Legal?

I've been wanting to assemble a Halfling Swashbuckler(Mouser) Monk for some time, and a waveblade is the perfect option since it's going to have crappy Cha, the ability to have a high chance of regaining spent Panache points is critical! (pun only slightly intended)

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*headscratch* I got nuthin

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It's an 18-20 crit range weapon with the "monk" quality and in the "close" weapon group, and therefore flurryable by both Monks and Brawlers. I'm pretty sure that's been the consensus reason why it likely wasn't included.

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OH right. The unchained monk would gain automatic proficiency with it wouldn't he?

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Yup, there are no flurry-able 18-20 weapons, spent quite a bit of time trying to figure it out for a rebuild of my Lore Warden (Still haven't figured it out)

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Pirate Rob wrote:
Yup, there are no flurry-able 18-20 weapons, spent quite a bit of time trying to figure it out for a rebuild of my Lore Warden (Still haven't figured it out)

I figured exotic weapon proficiency would be enough of a drawback but the UC monk would get it out of the box.

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
Pirate Rob wrote:
Yup, there are no flurry-able 18-20 weapons, spent quite a bit of time trying to figure it out for a rebuild of my Lore Warden (Still haven't figured it out)
I figured exotic weapon proficiency would be enough of a drawback but the UC monk would get it out of the box.

Brawler in my case, who also gets free proficiency.

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Still seems like a flurry of pin pricks compared to unarmed strike damage out of a flurry of bow attacks like a Zen Archer gets...

I'm not saying it can't have up side if deployed properly, but I just don't see it as some ground breaking build that is going to overpower all other options.

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Glorf Fei-Hung wrote:

Still seems like a flurry of pin pricks compared to unarmed strike damage out of a flurry of bow attacks like a Zen Archer gets...

I'm not saying it can't have up side if deployed properly, but I just don't see it as some ground breaking build that is going to overpower all other options.

I don’t think overpowering all other options is the criteria they use. It does something no other weapon does. That was, apparently, enough.

Brawlers get scaling damage on close weapons. Admittedly not at the pace a zen archer does. But it also begins at 1d6, which is better than the kukri. Vs a rapier, it’s the same damage, but on a light weapon, so it works with piranha strike.

I think there were just too many things it does that other weapons can’t. There may have also been plans to make it available via chronicle.

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For me it involved passing those crits off with Butterfly sting.

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I never really looked at this item before. That's an amazingly good monk weapon! I mean just flat up "I'm a monk, what should I use?" 18-20, flurryable and is light (so you can use Piranha Strike and agile with it as well if you go that route). Haven't done the math yet but at first glance I'm going to say it's probably better than unarmed strike up until at least 12th level.

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Compare the price and the statistics to a wakazashi and you will see it is way underpriced.

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