Land Vehicle (Chariot) Ramming Manuever


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Liberty's Edge

Greetings Pathfinder,

I have an interesting situation and a few questions created from it.

If a pulled chariot rams into a wall of force how much damage does the vehicle take?

Is the 1d8 damage stated for large vehicles per speed? Or is it just a flat 1d8.

Second question is about the pulling horses

Do they get an attempt to move out of the way since the wall is invisible?

Liberty's Edge

Ugghh.... Must be a reason why there is no ramming posts at all.

Liberty's Edge

Are these rules so complicated no one knows what is going on with them?


Ramming wrote:
Any time any part of a vehicle (including any creatures used as propulsion) enters the space of a creature or vehicle of its size or larger, or the space of a solid sturdy object (like a wall or a building) no matter the size of that object, it makes a ramming maneuver against that creature or object. There is no maneuver check for a ramming maneuver; its effects happen automatically. When a vehicle makes a ramming maneuver against a creature or an object, the vehicle deals its ramming damage to the creature or object, and the vehicle takes half that damage. The base amount of damage that a ramming vehicle does and takes is determined by its size (see Table: Ramming Damage by Size).

No mention of speed.

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