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I'm a noob at Pathfinder (my only RPG I play) and got involved 2,5 years ago. Friends got me infected and soon after I bought my own core rule book. And a lot of books followed as well as the Hero Lab extensions. It was quite an investment, but looking throughout the paizo site I was sure that it would be good for many years to come. There was just pathfinder, no editions (my main reason not to play D&D) and now you just bomb-shelled me with the announcement of SE!
And yes, I know I can keep playing FE for a while, but the extra hassle of finding people who are playing FE, the experienced players and GM who played most of FE will leave and new PFS player will start with SE. And all friend I got involved in PFS with the promise that there is just one system... I feel guilty toward them. This is a weird way to punch me on the nose for getting involved as a GM and PC. I feel really bummed and betrayed by this. Sorry, I'm way of being enthusiastic or as hyped as others look...
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I'm a noob at Pathfinder (my only RPG I play) and got involved 2,5 years ago. Friends got me infected and soon after I bought my own core rule book. And a lot of books followed as well as the Hero Lab extensions. It was quite an investment, but looking throughout the paizo site I was sure that it would be good for many years to come. There was just pathfinder, no editions (my main reason not to play D&D) and now you just bomb-shelled me with the announcement of SE!
And yes, I know I can keep playing FE for a while, but the extra hassle of finding people who are playing FE, the experienced players and GM who played most of FE will leave and new PFS player will start with SE. And all friend I got involved in PFS with the promise that there is just one system... I feel guilty toward them. This is a weird way to punch me on the nose for getting involved as a GM and PC. I feel really bummed and betrayed by this. Sorry, I'm way of being enthusiastic or as hyped as others look...
Ya I too fear change.
I play 3.5 with my group and am just starting to get a real feel for the differences between it and Pathfinder. Maybe I'm getting old.I just don't want to spend the money on a new book & have it suck. Especially since I like first edition as much as I do.
Society Play transition needs to be smoother than an airplane wing. It's not allowed to fall apart.
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I hear you on this Patrick. Change and progress is inevitable, and this is a game after all. I am sure the good folks at Paizo have been looking to do this for a while now and I certainly will check out the playtest and see what they have in store, but the sad truth is that FE is now a dead game walking. I have been mulling this over for the last few days when I learned of SE and the upcoming playtest and to say I have mixed feelings in an understatement.
As for SE, I have no doubt it will be a great game. The designers at Paizo know gaming, are very talented and creative, and flat out know the biz and churn out great stuff. Pathfinder was the reason I came out of gaming hibernation, not touching a game for well over 15 years. I stumbled across the core rulebook and was frankly blown away. I absolutely loved what they did with 3.5. After reading Inner Sea Guide, I was hooked. I started buying up rulebooks, splat books, modules. Dove right into Hero Lab and am still working, or rather was working, my way to having all the data sets. As I poured through the materiel, so many character concepts kept leaping out at me through the pages.
As an added bonus, I discovered the wonderful gaming community here on the Paizo boards. That led me to my most recent gaming passion, PFS PbP games. I have been an active player and mostly active GM for several years. I was looking forward to Planar Adventures and thought the FE ship had many more voyages ahead. The playtest announcement really hit me out of the blue, as I know it did for most folks.
This is not the first edition change I have been through as I am sure many if not all the people here have been. I have yet to have a good experience with any of them. The main reason I so heavily invested in Pathfinder was my certainty in its longevity. The system has lasted for what, 20 years? I concluded there was a reason for that. People liked the system. Sure it has its flaws, but it was a good system that was fun to play.
Again, I am trying my best to keep an open mind, but I am an old gamer and as I write this I cannot escape this one thought: I do not want to start over again. I love my PFS characters and am not happy about the upcoming pnp equivalent of a server wipe. I am not happy losing the hundreds and hundreds of character options I have collected over the years. I am not happy about all the cash I dumped into hero lab and that Lone Wolf will no doubt use SE as a way to force everyone to Hero Lab Online, for more up front dough and a monthly subscription.
I know the counter to my unhappiness is the old "you can play FE as long as you want" and "no one is stealing your books" etc. But frankly, Paizo itself never subscribed to that philosophy. Pathfinder was created because the company recognized that the 3.5 system would die if it was abandoned. I suspect FE will rapidly decline in amount of games available and certainly for PFS which the only way I play the game now.
In any event, I apologize for the rant. This is not meant for a call to action or a request for Paizo to do x, y or z. I still think Paizo is the best company in gaming and hope the SE transition is a positive for them and Pathdfinder in general. I just needed to get these thoughts off my chest and this thread seemed like a good a place as any.
tl;dr Bummer +1
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I know the counter to my unhappiness is the old "you can play FE as long as you want" and "no one is stealing your books" etc. But frankly, Paizo itself never subscribed to that philosophy. Pathfinder was created because the company recognized that the 3.5 system would die if it was abandoned. I suspect FE will rapidly decline in amount of games available and certainly for PFS which the only way I play the game now.
This is absolutely why this announcement is hitting me so hard and I have just been unable to fully realize it until now.