| dracklor |
So one of my players is a crazy Grippli Shaman.
When they raided the Mite lair he fell in love with the giant centipedes, and managed to collect some eggs from the hatchery.
He wants to hatch them and raise them.
Now as they are mindless without something like taking one as a Druid's animal companion and giving them Int at their first ability score, recruiting a Mite with vermin empathy or a Vermin Tamer, or using some permanent magical boost on the centipedes, can he do it?
I've only just started with Pathfinder a few months back, though I am familiar with running games in general and realize I could just house rule something.
I suppose another good question that I can't seem to find the answer to offhand would be how fast do these monsters mature?
Gripplis being comparable in size to Mites I think he plans to use one as a mount.
| Matthew Downie |
Control Vermin is a spell with a long duration. I don't think it's on the Shaman spell list, but maybe he could research it?
Alternatively:
Headband of Vermin Control. This is a cheap item (though not a common one, according to the lore), which uses the important Headband slot.
As for how long centipedes take to mature, that's really up to you. If you're playing Kingmaker, it's the type of campaign where players can take a few months off from adventuring. Maybe they grow super fast; it's up to you.
The other issue is that it's a creature with 5HP, so it's unlikely to survive long if anything attacks it. But maybe you could farm them and replace them frequently. The Mounted Combat feat would help, though not against area effect attacks.
| dracklor |
Control Vermin is a spell with a long duration. I don't think it's on the Shaman spell list, but maybe he could research it?
Alternatively:
Headband of Vermin Control. This is a cheap item (though not a common one, according to the lore), which uses the important Headband slot.As for how long centipedes take to mature, that's really up to you. If you're playing Kingmaker, it's the type of campaign where players can take a few months off from adventuring. Maybe they grow super fast; it's up to you.
The other issue is that it's a creature with 5HP, so it's unlikely to survive long if anything attacks it. But maybe you could farm them and replace them frequently. The Mounted Combat feat would help, though not against area effect attacks.
I believe he plans to upgrade to giant whiptail centipedes eventually, though that would be a rather oversized mount for a 2 foot tall PC.
| The Black Bard |
Mites are cowardly little critters: a mite that was "out of the office" might overhear the grippli's plans and ask to teach the secrets of vermin training to the grippli in exchange for protection. A lone mite in the wilderness is a dead one, after all.
The mite can easily fade into the background, which then gives you leeway for a problem or two later on. (Obligitory cautionary statement about having every NPC betray PCs, etc). Perhaps the people become alarmed at a "vermin farm" discovered in the sewers, where the mite has been trying to breed the most powerful specimen to give to his master, like a pedigree horse. Or a dissapearance of food, which when investigated leads to said farm, etc.
Honestly, being able to train vermin is cool because it's unusual, not because its any more powerful. A snake can do almost everything a spider or centipede can do, and mindless might give immunity to bad things, but there are a lot of good morale bonuses out there that it can't benefit from.
Vermin druid and verminous hunter make it pretty clear that the cost/benefit ratio is pretty even. Just go for it!
| dracklor |
Mites are cowardly little critters: a mite that was "out of the office" might overhear the grippli's plans and ask to teach the secrets of vermin training to the grippli in exchange for protection. A lone mite in the wilderness is a dead one, after all.
The mite can easily fade into the background, which then gives you leeway for a problem or two later on. (Obligitory cautionary statement about having every NPC betray PCs, etc). Perhaps the people become alarmed at a "vermin farm" discovered in the sewers, where the mite has been trying to breed the most powerful specimen to give to his master, like a pedigree horse. Or a dissapearance of food, which when investigated leads to said farm, etc.
Honestly, being able to train vermin is cool because it's unusual, not because its any more powerful. A snake can do almost everything a spider or centipede can do, and mindless might give immunity to bad things, but there are a lot of good morale bonuses out there that it can't benefit from.
Vermin druid and verminous hunter make it pretty clear that the cost/benefit ratio is pretty even. Just go for it!
Oh, yes. I do like the Mite minion idea.