Full Plate Mail with constant Ride the Waves (4th level Cleric; CL 7) and Freedom of Movement (4th level Cleric; CL 7). According to the Magic Item Creation Rules, this item costs ([MW Full Plate 1,650] + [Ride the Waves (hour/lvl) 56,000] + [Freedom of Movement (10 mins/level) 84,000] =) 141,650 gp. Seems a bit much. I know that the Magic Item Creation Rules are meant to be more of a guideline than bible, but I'm having a hard time figuring out what the cost SHOULD be.
This is meant to be crafted by a member of the group, so they'll only need to spend half the total cost to get it. Any help would be appreciated.
Sounds about right. Full Plate that grants the ability to breathe water, grant a swim speed, and provide a constant Freedom of Movement spell is bound to be pricy, even with crafting.
I mean, a Ring of Freedom of Movement is 40,000 gold alone (which doesn't add up considering it should be 84,000 gold by the normal standards), but that's because Ring slots can have, well, anything, and have it not be ridiculous.
You also aren't even factoring in a +1 bonus (1,000 gold), or the 50% price increase to one of those effects, making it even more expensive than what you lead on.
Abilities such as an attack roll bonus or saving throw bonus and a spell-like function are not similar, and their values are simply added together to determine the cost. For items that take up a space on a character's body, each additional power not only has no discount but instead has a 50% increase in price.
So, it could be approaching 200,000 gold by the time you're done with it.
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Always price by looking at similar items when possible. The table is the last resort. As Darksol points out, the ring of freedom of movement is 40k gp. Ride the waves grants a swim speed and water breathing. That's similar to a pearl of the sirines, which is 15.3k gp. Using the rules for stacking abilities onto one item, I'd say you have 2650 gp for the +1 armor, +40000 for freedom, +23k for the underwater stuff, so a total of 65650 gp.
Note that if you actually just want to be able to act underwater you just need the pearl effect:
The pearl enables its possessor to breathe in water as if she were in clean, fresh air. Her swim speed is 60 feet, and she can cast spells and act underwater without hindrance.
You're paying a lot extra to be immune to grapples.
Thanks for the feedback. Tweaking some of the functionality:
Constant Water Breathing and 30' Swim Speed (See Helm of Underwater Action), and while underwater, the wearer can activate combat mode as a Standard action, allowing him to make melee attack rolls as if he was under the effects of Freedom of Movement (See Pearl of Sirens).
2,650 = +1 Full Plate
36,000 = Constant Swim Speed and Water Breathing (Helm of Underwater Action is use-activated, so I added 50% for Constant)
15,300 = Use-activated FoM only for making melee attacks, and only while underwater (only 1/3 of the Pearl of Sirens' use, so I didn't add 50%)
53,950 = final cost, or 26,975 to craft.
How does that sound?
Thanks for the feedback. Tweaking some of the functionality:
Constant Water Breathing and 30' Swim Speed (See Helm of Underwater Action), and while underwater, the wearer can activate combat mode as a Standard action, allowing him to make melee attack rolls as if he was under the effects of Freedom of Movement (See Pearl of Sirens).
2,650 = +1 Full Plate
36,000 = Constant Swim Speed and Water Breathing (Helm of Underwater Action is use-activated, so I added 50% for Constant)
15,300 = Use-activated FoM only for making melee attacks, and only while underwater (only 1/3 of the Pearl of Sirens' use, so I didn't add 50%)
53,950 = final cost, or 26,975 to craft.How does that sound?
I think you are drastically overpricing it.
Here's the thing. Pearl of the sirines and Helm of Underwater action are in the same book. Despite that, and despite Pearl of the Sirines being both slotless and better overall than the helm (partial FoM and 60ft swim>30ft swim and longer vision range), the helm costs nearly twice as much. Based on this, I would outright disregard the helm, because you are risking designing an item that is outright inferior to pearl+normal +1 plate.
Given that Pearl is slotless and already has a +100% modifier factored in, that would mean that the base cost would be 7650gp. The extra cost multiplier is to the lesser of the two parts, which would mean that the +1 enhancement would cost 1500gp, fullplate 1650gp, for a total of 10800gp (vs 18250 for +1 plate and pearl). This means that it costs 6225gp to buy MW Fullplate and craft your magical swimming plate out of it (vs 9950gp to craft the +1 plate and pearl).
It is debatable whether or not it is appropriate to just halve the cost of the pearl, but you are only giving 30ft swim speed, the armor can't be upgraded*, you are stuck with a particular suit of armor and the FoM is command activated. Frankly, I *still* might be overpricing it, since if swimming was *that* important to me, I would probably just suck it up and make the pearl. The cost difference will be made up by being able to upgrade armor instead of getting a really pricey Amulet of NA or Ring of Protection. I would consider doing something like making the partial FoM effect for 5 mins/day in 1 min increments and dropping the price of the entire suit to 6000-8000 gp.
*if you allow upgrading then you should again factor in the price increase to further enhancements, until the cost of the +X enhancement exceeds 7650gp x 1.5
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I'm actually not sure what exactly the goal here is that can't be accomplished by just buying the pearl. I assume there is some sort of reason so that's where my pricing suggestion come from.
If you really want the "el cheapo" full plate that grants water breathing, swim speed, and free action underwater:
- Commission a suit of custom masterwork full plate (1650 gp)
- Have the smith make a socket in the chestplate to hold a pearl (free)
- Glue a pearl of the sirines into said socket. (15300 gp)
Total cost 16950 gp, and now you have a suit of MW full plate that does all the underwater stuff.