Fighter / Alchemist multiclass questions


Rules Questions

Sovereign Court

So, in a recent home game, I made a Dwarven Fighter who plans on multiclassing for 2 levels into Alchemist. The basic build for him is he will be a Fighter who wields a Bardiche and will eventually grab feats like Power Attack/Pushing Assault/Furious Focus/Lunge to do some "distance control".

Now, the idea for multiclassing to Alchemist was to get access to extracts of Enlarge Person and Brew Potion (for more Enlarge Person in emergencies, not to mentioned wand access to useful spells, like Cure Light Wounds, as well as extra class skills), along with getting some Vestigial Arms.

The plan was to use a Bardiche in my "regular" hands and a Heavy Shield in one of my Vestigial Arms, and have the other Vestigial Arm free for drinking extracts, and then drawing a Dwarven Waraxe.

Here are my questions (which, hopefully, are straight-up easy to answer):

1) I know the arms don't grant extra attacks. But, can I make attacks of opportunities with both my Bardiche and Dwarven Waraxe? I assume so, because I could wield a Dwarven Boulder Helmet and still threaten adjacent, but wanted to be sure.

2) If an enemy gets adjacent to me, can I use a free action to "switch grips" from my Bardiche to my Dwarven Waraxe, wield it two-handed with Power Attack, forgo the bonus damage to push the target back 5 ft? Pushing Assault references "two-handed weapon attack", so would a Dwarven Waraxe (a 1H exotic weapon) still be treated as a two-handed martial weapon for this purpose?

Pushing Assault wrote:

A strike made with a two-handed weapon can push a similar sized opponent backward.

Prerequisites: Str 15, Power Attack, base attack bonus +1.

Benefit: When you hit a creature your size or smaller with a two-handed weapon attack modified by the Power Attack feat, you can choose to push the target 5 feet directly away from you instead of dealing the extra damage from Power Attack. If you score a critical hit, you can instead push the target 10 feet directly away from you. This movement does not provoke attacks of opportunities, and the target must end this move in a safe space it can stand in. You choose which effect to apply after the attack roll has been made, but before the damage is rolled.

My plan was to threaten up to 20 ft., and if enemies get too close, using Pushing Assault to push them from adjacent back to my reach, then re-grip back to my Bardiche so that if they try to move again, I get more attacks of opportunity (for added hilarity, a Furious Bardiche would work wonders). I think this works, but wanted to be sure.


(1) Yes.

(2) You can only take free actions, such as switching grips, during your turn. So you could wield the bardiche in your turn, switch to two-handing the waraxe just as your turn ends, then use that for AoOs---but then you won't be able to use the bardiche for AoOs.

(2b) Your waraxe does not change type, but it doesn't need to. "A two-handed weapon attack" means a two-handed attack with a weapon, not an attack with a two-handed weapon. Wielding a one-handed weapon in two hands counts.

Sovereign Court

Thanks for the responses.

Fuzzy-Wuzzy wrote:
(1) Yes.

Great. Thanks.

Fuzzy-Wuzzy wrote:
(2) You can only take free actions, such as switching grips, during your turn. So you could wield the bardiche in your turn, switch to two-handing the waraxe just as your turn ends, then use that for AoOs---but then you won't be able to use the bardiche for AoOs.

Right. I'd only be doing the free action switching grips on my turn. I assume I could switch grips from my Bardiche to my Dwarven Waraxe before I make attacks, pushing assault to move them away, then regrip my Bardiche before my turn ends?

Fuzzy-Wuzzy wrote:
(2b) Your waraxe does not change type, but it doesn't need to. "A two-handed weapon attack" means a two-handed attack with a weapon, not an attack with a two-handed weapon. Wielding a one-handed weapon in two hands counts.

Thanks. I wasn't clear whether it needed a two-handed weapon, or just a two-handed attack with a weapon. Glad to hear that part will work.


Arassuil wrote:
Fuzzy-Wuzzy wrote:
(2) You can only take free actions, such as switching grips, during your turn. So you could wield the bardiche in your turn, switch to two-handing the waraxe just as your turn ends, then use that for AoOs---but then you won't be able to use the bardiche for AoOs.
Right. I'd only be doing the free action switching grips on my turn. I assume I could switch grips from my Bardiche to my Dwarven Waraxe before I make attacks, pushing assault to move them away, then regrip my Bardiche before my turn ends?

Even better, since you can take free actions during a full attack, you can switch to the waraxe, use pushing assault, switch to the bardiche and attack them at range (and possibly push them some more), then switch to whichever you want before your turn ends.

Sovereign Court

Fuzzy-Wuzzy wrote:
Even better, since you can take free actions during a full attack, you can switch to the waraxe, use pushing assault, switch to the bardiche and attack them at range (and possibly push them some more), then switch to whichever you want before your turn ends.

Well, as long as the GM offers me enough free actions (and I have enough attacks via a high BAB), yes. That's what I thought. Excellent. /Mr. Burns Moment

Community / Forums / Pathfinder / Pathfinder First Edition / Rules Questions / Fighter / Alchemist multiclass questions All Messageboards

Want to post a reply? Sign in.
Recent threads in Rules Questions