Races, from thirteen to thirty-five in 2 months

[Pat 7]

For new players that is a little too much but for those who have plaid for a while that is a good start will be interesting to see what they do with classes that come out.

[David knott 242]

Golurkcanfly wrote:

Just trying to figure out if it uses "hands" since it doesn't seem to have any way to grip a gun the same way the other races do, or if it uses special rules or something.

They just wield weapons -- no special rules are given for them.

[Wei Ji the Learner]

Not so many if flying descendants of tengu get worked in there somewhere...

...what are we without the sky?

[Gryffe]

Metaphysician wrote:

. . . because if a race *didn't* balanced out to being equal the others, it wouldn't be suited as a PC race? Paizo simply isn't going to let you pick a species that makes you intrinsically better than everyone else. Especially at this early stage of the game, where time spent supporting stuff like "level 6 start campaigns" is not time spent on basics that are far, far more important.

I don't know. In my experience, people tend to play what's fun and yeld interesting RPs. Otherwise, all the races would be pigeonholed to one or two classes that plays into their strengh, which is clearly not what's happening. Then again, I'm the kind of guy that play a dual wielding kobold ranger in 3.5, so maybe that's just me ? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Metaphysician]

Shaudius wrote:

Metaphysician wrote:

. . . because if a race *didn't* balanced out to being equal the others, it wouldn't be suited as a PC race? Paizo simply isn't going to let you pick a species that makes you intrinsically better than everyone else. Especially at this early stage of the game, where time spent supporting stuff like "level 6 start campaigns" is not time spent on basics that are far, far more important.

I don't know Skittermanders have 6 arms apparently, while there's a core race with 4, and they don't extra attacks from it as far as I can tell, 6 arms adds a lot of versatility that I would say is pretty powerful compared to what a lot of races get.

Yeah, but that's only unbalanced if their other abilities don't make up for it. Six Arms is useful, so their other bonuses should be a little less useful, net result: balanced race. I suspect you'd have to get into some *much* more extreme turf for a single racial ability to make the race automatically unbalanced. Something like "regeneration", or "immunity to fire". Stuff like that where you'd either be radically superior to any other race choice, or else you'd have crippling flaws that make you similarly unsuited for play.

[Metaphysician]

Gryffe wrote:

Metaphysician wrote:

. . . because if a race *didn't* balanced out to being equal the others, it wouldn't be suited as a PC race? Paizo simply isn't going to let you pick a species that makes you intrinsically better than everyone else. Especially at this early stage of the game, where time spent supporting stuff like "level 6 start campaigns" is not time spent on basics that are far, far more important.

I don't know. In my experience, people tend to play what's fun and yeld interesting RPs. Otherwise, all the races would be pigeonholed to one or two classes that plays into their strengh, which is clearly not what's happening. Then again, I'm the kind of guy that play a dual wielding kobold ranger in 3.5, so maybe that's just me ? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If the only "fun" option they can come up with coincidentally is the race that is CR 3 without a character class, than I question if "fun" is what they are really after. What's more, Paizo runs official game venues, with relatively vast and open player bases. This means their operating rules *must* account for abusive behavior, because there *will* be people who join up and intentionally try to break the game to the detriment of others.

Honestly, the number of RPGs that handle radical differences in PC power well are fairly wee. Its just not worth it, 90% of the time.

[Sara Marie]

Removed another post.

[Owen K. C. Stephens]

Shaudius wrote:

Metaphysician wrote:

. . . because if a race *didn't* balanced out to being equal the others, it wouldn't be suited as a PC race? Paizo simply isn't going to let you pick a species that makes you intrinsically better than everyone else. Especially at this early stage of the game, where time spent supporting stuff like "level 6 start campaigns" is not time spent on basics that are far, far more important.

I don't know Skittermanders have 6 arms apparently, while there's a core race with 4, and they don't extra attacks from it as far as I can tell, 6 arms adds a lot of versatility that I would say is pretty powerful compared to what a lot of races get.

Of course a kasha can pick up two cybernetic arms, and have 6 arms.

Though a skittermander can do the same thing and have 8...