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I'm looking for a PFS-specific ruling on this and couldn't find it; apologies if I've overlooked something.
I was wondering, since Celestial Healing can work off either Holy Water (which does have a listed price) OR a drop of Good Outsider blood (which has no listed price)... could a caster with Eschew Materials cast Celestial Healing for free, invoking the idea that the second possible material component has no cost?
I ask since this would be an interesting spell for some of my character concepts to pick up (I'm not worried about it being inefficient, it'll still do what I want it to). If they can do so at no cost, this would be fantastic for my purposes!
Thank you for the response! Sadly, 'IMO' is the issue. In normal home table play, I fully agree this is open to GM interpretation. My response would be "That makes sense; I'll either obey the restriction or not pick the spell."
It's my understanding PFS isn't as open to 'IMO' GM rulings though, hence my trying to seek a more clear decision that isn't as prone to table variation.
...You may be right, it's possible this is in the wrong forum. If so, sorry about that; I have no objection to the post being moved (and I'll avoid any future posts of that kind to this PFS sub-forum).
To go ahead and continue the thought though, I agree that it's "or".
The question is whether the 'good outsider blood' option falls within the purview of Eschew Materials. There's no obvious listed market cost for it, so I'm a tad confused.
There is no market price for most material components.
Okay, that's interesting then. So it sounds like Eschew Materials WOULD allow free casting of Celestial Healing in such a case and this is totally normal? I'm okay with that since the spell isn't even very good (it's more a flavor option), but I wanted to be sure that's the case before I go trying to pull that in official PFS play.
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Alas, there are about 10,000 situations like this pending in the PFS clarifications threads... and GenCon is coming which tends to take the staff's attention.
I just re-read the feat description:"You can cast any spell with a material component costing 1 gp or less without needing that component." Holy water doesn't qualify, obviously. Good outsider blood is assumed to be in your spell component pouch, since it has no listed cost. So you're good.
(Serves me right for thinking about this before checking the reference *and* before ingesting coffee!)
Okay. Thank you! Two last things, then.
Where are the PFS Clarification threads you speak of? Clearly I've posted this question in the wrong place (my apologies to the moderators and campaign staff; I didn't know about that), so I want to be sure I make any future posts in the right place.
And second, thanks for taking your time on the weekend to help me out with this! I'm glad to hear it works like I thought it does.
If any mod sees this, consider me properly rebuked on the matter and feel free to move this thread to the proper area.
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On the main PFS page there are multiple tabs leading you to different PFS resources. One of them is called "Campaign Clarifications". It's a document put together by the community and PFS Leadership that helps settle genuinely ambiguous issues.
But honestly, you asked a general rules question. The best place for that is the Rules Questions Forum. 99% of the time PFS defaults to the general Pathfinder ruleset.
Yeah. You're right; I posted in the wrong spot, and I apologize for that. Please consider this a one-time mistake on my part, I'll be more careful from now on.
Sure, but I shouldn't be part of the problem... at least now I know better.
As for the purpose of the PFS ruling area: Now I get it. Thanks for clearing that up!
(In any case, my questions are answered and I'll be taking my leave from this thread.)
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Anyway, before you consider purchasing a wand of Celestial healing, check it's duration:
Duration 1 round/2 levelsSo the L1 wand does nothing useful.
I've found only ONE useful way to utilize the spell and that is if I use my maagambian arcanist to cast it. Wands, scroll whatever else Celestial Healing fails spectacularly against Infernal Healing
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I've found only ONE useful way to utilize the spell and that is if I use my maagambian arcanist to cast it. Wands, scroll whatever else Celestial Healing fails spectacularly against Infernal HealingAnyway, before you consider purchasing a wand of Celestial healing, check it's duration:
Duration 1 round/2 levelsSo the L1 wand does nothing useful.
In this case it fails spectacularly against cure light wounds. A wand of stabilise would be about equally useful at half the cost.
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In this case it fails spectacularly against cure light wounds. A wand of stabilise would be about equally useful at half the cost.I've found only ONE useful way to utilize the spell and that is if I use my maagambian arcanist to cast it. Wands, scroll whatever else Celestial Healing fails spectacularly against Infernal HealingAnyway, before you consider purchasing a wand of Celestial healing, check it's duration:
Duration 1 round/2 levelsSo the L1 wand does nothing useful.
Yeah the wand sucks, my Arcanist can pull it as a spell for 12 rounds at 11th level but that is very specific conditions.