Shadow Grasp Metamagic

[KainMalice]

So, I was looking at this metamagic feat, and have been considering its uses with the Darkness spell. So, I take magical lineage with Darkness as my chosen spell, apply this feat to it, cast it on a crossbow bolt, shoot the bolt at someone because I have dark vision. They get hit, and then have to make a save to not become entangled. Does this seem correct?

[PhelanArcetus]

A crossbow bolt (or arrow, etc.; basically any ammunition) that hits its target is destroyed. Which effectively ends the spell cast on the object.

Now, if you were to cast darkness on a rock, and toss it near someone, that would effectively move them into the area of the spell, forcing them to make a save or become entangled.
You are immune because it is your own spell modified by Shadow Grasp. Your party members, on the other hand, are not, meaning they would need to keep their distance or risk being entangled by you.

Magical Lineage is not required, though it does reduce the cost of metamagicing the spell.

As always, check with your GM.

[Psion-Psycho]

Additionally that would look cool. Imagine pretty much a cloud of darkness streaking through the sky towards u, the enemy. But ya ask ur DM if that will work because some say 1ce the object breaks the spell ends while others argue that the item is still there y would it not still radiate the spells effects. So ask and see then plan from there. Usaly u will get want u want or figure out how to get it if u talk it out with the DM 1st.

[HaraldKlak]

Since you've got umbral spell, you can make permanent entangling darkness traps.

Use umbral spell and shadow grasp on a continual light spell. Unlike tenebrous spell the umbral spell metamagic doesn't disallow [light]-spells. And the light from the spell has no effect, since it isn't a higher level than itself.

[KainMalice]

HaraldKlak wrote:

Since you've got umbral spell, you can make permanent entangling darkness traps.

Use umbral spell and shadow grasp on a continual light spell. Unlike tenebrous spell the umbral spell metamagic doesn't disallow [light]-spells. And the light from the spell has no effect, since it isn't a higher level than itself.

That...is...interesting...

I was wanting to play an Illusionist caster a while back, but felt bad knowing that I was not able to do any sort of damage due to being an illusionist. I noticed another post about some guy who made an shadowcaster, which made me find out about Shadow Gambit and was like...seriously? Where was this when I was trying to create my character? I am trying to figure out what fancy things I could do with the Umbral, Tenebrous, and Shadow Grasp spells,and that one is rather interesting. This is what I have managed to put together so far...

Wizard Half-Elf Shadowcaster Level 20
Universalist Specialization

Strength 13
Dexterity 14+1 [Level12]=15+1 [Level20]=16
Constitution 14+1 [Level 4]=15+1 [Level8]=16
Intelligence 16+2 Racial=18+1 [Level 16]=19
Wisdom 10
Charisma 12

+5 Ability Score [4,8,12,16,20]
+10 Feats [1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15,17,19]

Racial Features
Low-Light Vision
Ancestral Arms: Martial Weapon Proficiency [Scythe]
Elf Blood
Elven Immunities
Keen Senses
Arcane Training

Class Features
Shadow Spells [Level 1]
Hand of the Apprentice [Level 1]
Cantrips [Level 1]
Scribe Scroll [Level 1] {Or Spell Focus [Illusion]}
Shadowsight [Level 5]
Metamagic Mastery [Level 8}
Shadowy Specialization [Level 10]
Bonus Feat [Level 15]
Bonus Feat [Level 20]

Feats

Shadow Gambit [Level5]

Probably not very impressive, but some of this stuff is for flavor.

[Artanthos]

KainMalice wrote:

So, I was looking at this metamagic feat, and have been considering its uses with the Darkness spell. So, I take magical lineage with Darkness as my chosen spell, apply this feat to it, cast it on a crossbow bolt, shoot the bolt at someone because I have dark vision. They get hit, and then have to make a save to not become entangled. Does this seem correct?

Heightened Arcane Mark with Umbral Spell + Shadow Grasp.

Keep a few in your pocket until needed.

[HaraldKlak]

Artanthos wrote:

KainMalice wrote:

Heightened Arcane Mark with Umbral Spell + Shadow Grasp.

Keep a few in your pocket until needed.

I were considering this as the cheap solution. However, it seems unclear whether or not shadow grasp function with a spell that doesn't affect an area in it self, before applying shadow grasp.