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The faq states that "a mounted charge is a charge made by you and your mount." A charge requires you to move to the closest square from which you can attack the opponent. I have reach while using my lance, but my mount doesn't.
1. Where do I end the charge? I assume you move 10ft from the opponent, make a lance attack, then continue moving, then the mount makes a natural attack. Is that right?
2. If I'm using ride-by-attack, do we both get to attack as we pass the opponent?
3. If I want to overrun an opponent during a charge movement, who attempts the combat maneuver and provokes the AoO? Me or the mount?
4. If I leave a threatened square while mounted, who provokes the AoO from movement? Me or the mount?
5. If one of us provokes an AoO, can the enemy attack the other? If both of us provoke an AoO, can the enemy hit us both or do they have to choose which one of us they hit?
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This is one of those rules that really needs to get a clarification, because that FAQ does little to solve all the problems with mounted combat, other than answering the question, does my mount take the penalties/bonuses from charging if only I make an attack. If you're playing a home game, I would really just talk it over with the GM and see how they want to run it. Most GMs wouldn't have a problem with continuing the movement after you've made the attack so the mount can attack, though they might say it stops when you attack.
But from how everything is currently worded, when you charge on a mount the mount is also charging, however you use the movement of the mount, so the mount moves adjacent to the enemy. Then, because the wording for charges says that you can make an attack after moving, the mount can attack, but not you, because the reach of your lance doesn't allow it. Now this is clearly stupid, and not intentional, but is how the rules are currently worded. Nothing says you can attack on the way when you reach the first square the rider can attack from, or just stop in that square, but it's entirely reasonable to assume you should be able to. Almost nobody will argue that, but then you run into the problem above because you're already allowing something that's not in the rules. And which is it, because one allows the mount to attack, and the other doesn't. Same thing applies with ride-by-attack, that just allows you to move after the charge.
As for Overrun, I don't think they've ever clarified. It would make sense that it's the mount making the check, as it's the one moving, and it's likely the one who's going to make contact with the enemy, but then the pre-reqs for the trample feat don't make any sense, as they're clearly meant for the rider.
And all that doesn't answer questions like, can I be tripped while mounted? What happens if someone grapples me while mounted, and my mount tries to move away? Plus more examples that I can't even think of at the moment.
Honestly, I had a cavalier in PFS that I just stopped playing with, because how the mounted rules worked changed from GM to GM, and having to spend 15-20 minutes every session just going over the mounted combat rules just wasn't fun.
So, if it's a home game, I suggest just talking to the GM beforehand how they interpret the rules. If it's PFS, best I can say is have the rules printed out with your character sheet, and expect a lot of table variation.
Thanks. Updated the post with a couple more questions as well.