Keleshite Naming Conventions


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Shadow Lodge

Hello!

I'm making a character (a Keleshite Druid) and I decided to use the trait "Keleshite Princess". That got me to look around for the naming conventions for Keleshite Nobles. I found, in Qadira, Jewel of the East, that the naming convention for a noble goes as follows:

Members of the imperial family frequently bear a given name, followed by a form of their mother’s name, a name earned upon reaching adulthood, a name indicating which branch of the imperial family they’re from, and finally the family name al-Parishat.

So, it'd be something like this:
[Name] al-(of, belonging to)[Mother's Name] [Name earned upon reaching adulthood (a title? like goatslayer?)] [Name Indicating which branch of imperial family they belong to(like what?)] al-Parishat(of Nobility?)

Now I've made up a name for my princess:
Shahzadi al-Bahameena 'Abla Kalish al-Parishat

My question, which I hope you can help me with, is the "Name Indicating which branch of imperial family they belong to" I just put in "Kalish", which is the name of the current ruler of Kelesh, but I am unsure if this is correct. I tried looking around for full names of Keleshite nobility and came up blank, is there an example in a novel somewhere? Your help is much appreciated ^_^

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Lyss Xliph wrote:

Hello!

I'm making a character (a Keleshite Druid) and I decided to use the trait "Keleshite Princess". That got me to look around for the naming conventions for Keleshite Nobles. I found, in Qadira, Jewel of the East, that the naming convention for a noble goes as follows:

Members of the imperial family frequently bear a given name, followed by a form of their mother’s name, a name earned upon reaching adulthood, a name indicating which branch of the imperial family they’re from, and finally the family name al-Parishat.

So, it'd be something like this:
[Name] al-(of, belonging to)[Mother's Name] [Name earned upon reaching adulthood (a title? like goatslayer?)] [Name Indicating which branch of imperial family they belong to(like what?)] al-Parishat(of Nobility?)

Now I've made up a name for my princess:
Shahzadi al-Bahameena 'Abla Kalish al-Parishat

My question, which I hope you can help me with, is the "Name Indicating which branch of imperial family they belong to" I just put in "Kalish", which is the name of the current ruler of Kelesh, but I am unsure if this is correct. I tried looking around for full names of Keleshite nobility and came up blank, is there an example in a novel somewhere? Your help is much appreciated ^_^

The members of the Imperial Family are a bit different in their naming conventions from other Keleshites -- their second name is derived from their mother's name, but doesn't follow the normal al-[mom's name] pattern (it's a middle name, not a surname). Also keep in mind that people who knew them as kids probably use their first name, but friends they make as adults may use their third name (which functions sort of like a nickname).

Branches of the Imperial Family are something that got cut for space in the Qadira book, so since what's below isn't published, it's not canon. :-) I think the only trace of it remaining is a reference to a shahiyan named Safiya, who's a member of the Haxaemenid branch of the family. (The Imperial Family is giant, at this point, and different branches have held the throne at different points.)

The shahiyan (member of the Imperial Family) who holds the throne is the Emperor or Empress. Their spouse (who is almost always also a shahiyan if the person on the throne is male, since descent is matrilineal and if the Queen isn't a shahiyan, the Emperor's children won't be members of the family and won't be eligible to inherit) is titled a King or a Queen.

But (and remember, this isn't canon, since it got cut and I can't guarantee that it will get published, or that we won't go a different direction if we do publish more on Kelesh):

The Emperor's birth name is Irbanu Mirab Yaril Mitaneth al-Parishat.

The Queen's name is Shubat Rashanah Azbanu Hakhemaneth al-Parishat. She's childless, which is why the secession in Kelesh is making everyone nervous. The chosen heir still has to be ratified by a majority of the shahiyanam, so even if she had children, none of them would have a guarantee of inheriting the throne, but in most cases it would be a formality.

So, the current Emperor is a member of the Mitaneth branch (usually transliterated in Taldan as Mitaned). The Queen is a member of the Hakhemaneth (usually transliterated Haxaemenid because Taldane doesn't use the same alphabet, but purists translate it as above) branch, which held the throne prior to Kalish's ascension.

Those are the only two branches I've named so far.

The Empire's been around for over 7000 years, though, so there have likely been a LOT of different branches to the family over that time--feel free to make some up. :-)

Shadow Lodge

Thank You SOOOO Much!!
This helps a lot. With this info I've now named my princess:

Shahzadi Bahameen 'Abla Hargaithit al-Parishat

I hope we get more stuff for Qadira (and hopefully stuff from Kelesh itself!!!). Thank you for all the work you put into this, its great ^_^

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