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I am looking to use both of these feats. So if I'm attacked but missed I have the opportunity to feint as an immediate action from Swordplay Upset. Greater Feint says the target of a successful feint loses its Dex until before my next round in addition to my next attack.
So what benefit do these feats gain from being paired up?
I am looking to use both of these feats. So if I'm attacked but missed I have the opportunity to feint as an immediate action from Swordplay Upset. Greater Feint says the target of a successful feint loses its Dex until before my next round in addition to my next attack.
So what benefit do these feats gain from being paired up?
Since feinting only makes the target lose their Dex bonus to YOUR attacks and not anyone else, the only benefit of using Greater Feint in this particular situation instead of just a normal Feint (though as an immediate action) is that if they provoked an AOO from you during their turn, it would qualify for being a sneak attack.
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Per this FAQ, Greater Feint makes the target lose their dex bonus against everyone until the start of your next turn.
Greater Feint: Greater Feint says the target is denied its Dexterity bonus to AC until the beginning of my next turn in addition to against my next attack. Is that just against my attacks, which probably won’t be more than just my next attack until my next turn, or is it against my allies as well?
Greater Feint makes the target lose its Dexterity bonus against all melee attacks by anyone until the start of your next turn, not just you. Unless a feint ability specifically mentions ranged attacks (like the Ranged Feint feat), it always denies Dexterity bonus against melee attacks.