Help me create a 4e seeker for Pathfinder


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Hello!

I'm creating a character for a 10th level campaign. I'd like to play a ranged character who uses composite bows, but can also cast spells (ranged magus?). If possible I'd like to pattern him/her after the 4e seeker class. Thanks in advance for the advice.

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I don't know about the Seeker class, sadly, but a character like this is definitely an available option.

Magus is a pretty bad class for it, though. I personally recommend Bard. The Arrowsong Minstrel Archetype is particularly appropriate and allows a lot of super cool stuff for this kind of character.

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The 4E seeker is an archer who sometimes makes trick shots, like a ranged trip or a tanglefoot arrow. So any class that can handle a bow could be a seeker.

If you want a character that casts spells and uses a bow, your main options are Magus and Warpriest. This is because these classes can do both in the same round, whereas other classes can either shoot or cast a spell. The Magus has several ranged archetypes (one of which is commonly considered overpowered); the Warpriest just requires a deity that likes ranged weapons.


You're not gonna find much in the way of a ranged battlefield controller that uses a mundane weapon. What elements of the class are you looking to replicate?


You can take a look at the psionic classes, they have two pretty good archers (the marksman and the soulknife archetype soulbolt). It is 3rd party stuff from Dreamscarred Press.

The ranger (divine marksman archetype or bow nomad) can do something in that direction, using the feats to build what you want in addition.
A Fighter (archer archetype) can with his large number of feats build some trickshot effects, too, but cannot cast spells.

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Seeker uses elemental spirits to augment his arrows for extra damage, creating difficult terrain, etc... that's what I'm looking to do if possible.

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Kurald Galain wrote:

The 4E seeker is an archer who sometimes makes trick shots, like a ranged trip or a tanglefoot arrow. So any class that can handle a bow could be a seeker.

If you want a character that casts spells and uses a bow, your main options are Magus and Warpriest. This is because these classes can do both in the same round, whereas other classes can either shoot or cast a spell. The Magus has several ranged archetypes (one of which is commonly considered overpowered); the Warpriest just requires a deity that likes ranged weapons.

Warpriest seems to be the class I was looking for, thank you.


Since you're starting at 10th level, I'm actually going to suggest a grenadier archetype alchemist with the explosive missile discovery, here.

The grenadier archetype gets you your bow proficiency, as well as the ability to attach alchemist dusts and liquids to your arrows. (I would recommend the excellent tangleshot arrow as your go-to ammunition, as it allows you to retain your ranged touch attacks with your bombs while applying the excellent entangled condition.)

After that, just focus on bomb discoveries. Frost and force are probably the two best (frost applies the staggered condition on a failed save, and force is very rarely resisted, deals full damage to incorporeal targets, and hey - knocking the enemy prone usually isn't a bad deal, either.) Every arrow you fire with an explosive missile can really switch things up, and if you ever need to affect a larger area with your attacks, you can always go ahead and throw a bomb.

Add to that the excellent range of extracts at your disposal, and you have a pretty fantastic character.

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Knight_Druid wrote:
Kurald Galain wrote:

The 4E seeker is an archer who sometimes makes trick shots, like a ranged trip or a tanglefoot arrow. So any class that can handle a bow could be a seeker.

If you want a character that casts spells and uses a bow, your main options are Magus and Warpriest. This is because these classes can do both in the same round, whereas other classes can either shoot or cast a spell. The Magus has several ranged archetypes (one of which is commonly considered overpowered); the Warpriest just requires a deity that likes ranged weapons.

Warpriest seems to be the class I was looking for, thank you.

The warpriest can buff himself to be a good archer, but the arrows he fires won't have any special effects which is what the seeker was all about. Seeker really screams magus/arcane archer or ranged magus.


Okay, if you are starting at that level, you have several good options imo.

1. using the Arcane archer prestige class, using the imbue arrows ability to launch area spells with your bow. If you use Magus as a base, you will barely have that ability by level 10. (8 levels magus, 2 levels AA). You can use a combination of a full BAB martial class (ranger, fighter, etc) and wizard to get more arcane archer levels. Your magic will be a bit weaker at first, though, and not all magus archetypes work well as archers.

2. using a hunter with a bow to get access to some druidic control spells. Your bow could be reflavored as your divine focus or have the divine focus attached/incorporated in it (that may require some DM approval). You are less directly good in a fight but have a powerful animal companion and some teamwork tricks

3. using the grenadier alchemist, Gulthor already described why.

4. using the arrowsong Minstrel, Deadmanwalking described why.

I would shy away from warpriest as imo cleric spells are fairly low on control. Druids/hunters, bards or wizards/sorcerers, in that order, are imo better.


Not sure how exactly close you'd get to a 4e Seeker, but this magus archetype is available (just not in any PFS game though, barring any special boon or chronicle sheet unlock).

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