I'm trying to use the lycantrope template to make a human unchained rogue into a were-giant toad.
I'm confused by ability scores and size changes.
Ability Scores: +2 Wis, –2 Cha in all forms; +2 Str, +2 Con in hybrid and animal forms. Lycanthropes have enhanced senses but are not fully in control of their emotions and animalistic urges. In addition to these adjustments to the base creature's stats, a lycanthrope's ability scores change when he assumes hybrid or animal form. In human form, the lycanthrope's ability scores are unchanged from the base creature's form. In animal and hybrid form, the lycanthrope's ability scores are the same as the base creature's or the base animal's, whichever ability score is higher.
The rogue I statted, the base creature, have the following ability scores:
Str 13, Dex 17, Con 14, Int 8, Wis 10, Cha 12I should increase Wisdom and decrease Charisma by two in every form. That's easy, I think. I simply get Wis 12 and Cha 10.
In hybrid and animal form I use the base creature's or animal's ability scores, whichever is better. But do I apply the modifiers (+2 Wis, –2 Cha in all forms; +2 Str, +2 Con in hybrid and animal forms) only to the base creature and then compare them to the animal, or are the modifiers applied afterwards?
My base creature has Str 13, while a giant toad has 19. When becoming a lycanthrope and assuming hybrid or animal form, is his strength 19 or 21?
Normally, transforming into other forms works like spells such as beast shape. Those come with ability score changes depending on the size of the form taken. So transforming into a large animal gives you +4 Str and -2 Dex (and a natural armor increase). Are these changes applied to lycantropes?
The modifications are done last. If you look at the werewolf example in the bestiary the human fighter has a CON of 14, wolves have a CON of 15. The hybrid form has a CON of 17.
You do not gain the size bonus adjustments for two reasons. First you only gain what the templates states and it does not mention any adjustments for size difference. Second you are already using the better of the two stats anyways so this is kind of factored in already.