| Palanore |
Hello, everybody.
I've seen a previous threat about the Wild Arcana and Inspired Spell mythic abilities. There was a F.A.Q. nerfing both. They became standart actions.
But Recalled Blessing and Arcane Surge have a similar problem. They seem similar. But Arcane Surge demands a swift action and Recalled blessing requires no action at all based only in the descriptions.
Does that mean that the limit of extra-actions you can take using "Recalled blessing" are the limits of your mythic power points? And that means an Arcane Surge is always an extra-spell you can take each round even before it begins?
Sounds cracked.
If that's true, a first tier mythic hierophant with access to 5th lvl spells can use 5 boneshatters against a target even before action takes place in a round and an archimage can combo two mythic disintegrates against a target in a single round, both of these attacks demanding two saves (choosing always the worst result), causing an enormous amount of damage. These abilities seem a lot stronger than anything else in the mythic game if that's true, creating an effect only reachable, by other means, expending four paths to obtain 4 levels in Divine Metamagic or Arcane Metamagic (to quicken it).
Questions:
1 - Are these powers THAT unbalanced?
2 - How does it exactly work, if not?
| SNO_75 |
The FAQ doesn't seem to be applied to the PRD.
Reading the PRD, Arcane Surge and Wild Arcana both state "As a swift action" while neither Inspired Spell nor Recalled Blessing state any action type.
The FAQ does say that both Wild Arcana and Inspired Spell should be standard actions, and further restricts the spells usable to those that can only be cast as a standard action or less. Since the other two abilities are of the same variance, any DM would easily be able to say that the RAI is that all of them should be standard actions with the casting time restriction.
However, if one goes strictly by RAW...
Arcane Surge could be read to allow you to cast a spell as a swift action. It does limit it to spells you prepared that day, or know for spontaneous casters, and doesn't allow metamagic feats but it is still unbalanced considering you could swift cast a summon monster spell or something like create demiplane. It could be read that the swift action is what you need to spend the mythic point which grants you the spell to cast, but you still need to spend the action required to cast the spell. That still makes the spell more powerful than the others since you can use it on full round or longer spells.
Recalled Blessing doesn't specify an action (free, swift, move, standard, full round) so you can take it one of two ways. You can say that you have to use the spell's casting time, since no other time is specified or you fall back to the default time for a Supernatural Ability.
Supernatural Abilities (Su): Using a supernatural ability is usually a standard action (unless defined otherwise by the ability's description). Its use cannot be disrupted, does not require concentration, and does not provoke attacks of opportunity.
That does raise an interesting question though. Since you are using a Su to cast that spell does that mean the spell cannot be disrupted, doesn't require concentration and doesn't provoke an AoO or does it follow the normal casting rules since the Su is just to allow you to cast that spell.