reflavoring a weapon...


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just a quickie,
I have a character who might be using a halfling sling staff, is it PFS legal to reflavor it from a club with a sling to a baseball bat?

nothing crunchy would change as far as i can tell, but feel free to let me know if I am horribly wrong...

Dark Archive 4/5

So instead of short club, you have a short bat...I think that goes in line with the 'like for like' reflavoring rules. I mean, you won't be able to hide it as 'sports equipment' or anything, anyone who has such knowledge will be able to recognize it as a halfling sling staff.

Liberty's Edge 5/5

Todd Morgan wrote:
So instead of short club, you have a short bat...I think that goes in line with the 'like for like' reflavoring rules. I mean, you won't be able to hide it as 'sports equipment' or anything, anyone who has such knowledge will be able to recognize it as a halfling sling staff.

And oddly shaped one, but I agree.

The Exchange 5/5

The club portion would still be limited to being made of wood. Saying it is a bat wouldn't let you have a metal sling staff.


From the PFS FAQ:

Quote:
A player may not re-skin items to be something for which there are no specific rules, and any item a character uses for which there are no stats is considered an improvised weapon

No you may not have a baseball bat in Pathfinder unless there is one already in existence.

Grand Lodge 5/5 Regional Venture-Coordinator, Baltic

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Slingstaff wrote:
"Made from a specially designed sling attached to a short club

Clearly not a baseball bat. Way more like a Lacrosse stick. ;-)

5/5 5/55/55/5

A lacross stick would work.

1/5

wraithstrike wrote:

From the PFS FAQ:

Quote:
A player may not re-skin items to be something for which there are no specific rules, and any item a character uses for which there are no stats is considered an improvised weapon
No you may not have a baseball bat in Pathfinder unless there is one already in existence.

What's this baseball thing you speak of. This is just a club that I sanded down for aerodynamic, made wide at one end for good head bashing, and thin towards the other for easy gripping.

My issue is that you want to have a halfling sling be a baseball bat. It has to be a sling based weapon. You can not reflavor it as such that you play baseball with the ammo rather than using an actual sling mechanic.

Dark Archive 1/5

If there's no mechanical difference at all you could call it whatever you'd want at my table.

2/5

Wait, reskinning sounds backward.
If you reskin to something that already exists & has rules, that's not a change of "skin" that's to a different object.

Object A has rules, but you want a different flavor, so you can reskin it as object B which has different mechanics, but then ignore those mechanics because it's just a skin? But you can't do rule-less object C because...that would be misleading?
That makes little sense. If anything then you're fooling everybody with a B-looking object that's really an A. At least with C object then characters can guess it's mechanics because there's no baggage.

ETA: Can't we just be reasonable? For fun's sake.

3/5 5/5

Lab_Rat wrote:
wraithstrike wrote:

From the PFS FAQ:

Quote:
A player may not re-skin items to be something for which there are no specific rules, and any item a character uses for which there are no stats is considered an improvised weapon
No you may not have a baseball bat in Pathfinder unless there is one already in existence.

What's this baseball thing you speak of. This is just a club that I sanded down for aerodynamic, made wide at one end for good head bashing, and thin towards the other for easy gripping.

My issue is that you want to have a halfling sling be a baseball bat. It has to be a sling based weapon. You can not reflavor it as such that you play baseball with the ammo rather than using an actual sling mechanic.

Does this mean I can re-skin my Khepresh of Refuge to look like a jingasa or conical straw hat?

1/5

Castilliano wrote:

Wait, reskinning sounds backward.

If you reskin to something that already exists & has rules, that's not a change of "skin" that's to a different object.

Object A has rules, but you want a different flavor, so you can reskin it as object B which has different mechanics, but then ignore those mechanics because it's just a skin? But you can't do rule-less object C because...that would be misleading?
That makes little sense. If anything then you're fooling everybody with a B-looking object that's really an A. At least with C object then characters can guess it's mechanics because there's no baggage.

ETA: Can't we just be reasonable? For fun's sake.

PFS leadership has been pretty clear about reskinning. If a wolf can't be a pig, then a halfling sling staff probably can't be a baseball bat.

Some GMs will disagree with the leadership and allow it anyway but if you are a player who travels and sits at a variety of GM tables then your mileage will probably vary.

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