minimum caster level ?

[Veilgn]

so I am a wizard sage, the archetype that grant bonus +4 caster level a day (cool. but replace my familiar).then I buy a ioun stone for spell storing. the spell storing states that I must use minimum caster level.

is that mean, I cant store spell with sage modifier ?

or other modifier that grant caster level bonus ?

[Bob Bob Bob]

Ring of Spell Storing wrote:

Each spell has a caster level equal to the minimum level needed to cast that spell.

Yep, sure looks like it's always the minimum level needed to cast the spell. You don't even get higher CL for having higher CL yourself. A level one spell is always CL 1, even when you're CL 20.

[Veilgn]

is that mean fireball (spell level 3) will do 3D6 damage instead of 10D6 damage if my character reach lvl 10 ?

[wraithstrike]

No. You to be a 5th level wizard to cast a 3rd level spell so the minimum is 5d6.

[Chemlak]

Well, the minimum caster level for a fireball is 5, so it'd be 5d6, but yep, that how it looks.

[Veilgn]

thanks, now I understand.

[Diego Rossi]

Veilgn wrote:

so I am a wizard sage, the archetype that grant bonus +4 caster level a day (cool. but replace my familiar).then I buy a ioun stone for spell storing. the spell storing states that I must use minimum caster level.

is that mean, I cant store spell with sage modifier ?

or other modifier that grant caster level bonus ?

That is one of the big changes in Pathfinder, now all spell storing devices (not scrolls, those are spell completion) store them at the minimum level needed to cast them, not at the caster actual CL.

[Veilgn]

wait what? something changed?

is there a link for updates ?

[Diego Rossi]

Veilgn wrote:

wait what? something changed?

is there a link for updates ?

Earlier editions of D&D (3 and 3.5) hadn't an official rule about spell storing items, so my group assumption was that you were able to cast the stored spell at the caster level of the person that did put it in, i.e. a level 9 wizard put that shield spell in the spell storing ring? When cast it worked as a spell cast by a level 9 wizard. Now it work as cast by a level 1 wizard.

This way it require less bookkeeping but is noticeably weaker.

I have read of other groups that read it (again for 3 and 3.5) a "the spell storing item has a CL of X, so all spell you store are cast at a CL of X when cast". As that was a way to put in a spell as a 1st level caster and get it out as a higher level caster probably it was the reason of the specification about minimum caster level.