Kinetic Elemental Annihilator Bonus feats

[Hubbaman]

Hello

I'm sure this has been answered earlier, but I can't find it.

The feature says the following:

Info:

Bonus Feats: At 2nd level, an elemental annihilator can select a bonus feat from the following list: Deadly Aim, Double Slice, Point-Blank Shot, Power Attack, Precise Shot, Rapid Shot, Two- Weapon Fighting, Weapon Finesse, and Weapon Focus. Rapid Shot and Two-Weapon Fighting can be used with a kinetic blast only if the annihilator also possesses flurry of devastation (see below). She gains an additional bonus feat at 8th, 10th, 14th, and 18th levels. At 8th level, she can also select Improved Two-Weapon Fighting and Weapon Specialization. At 10th level, she can also select Greater Weapon Focus, Improved Critical, Improved Precise Shot, and Two-Weapon Rend. An elemental annihilator doesn't need to meet the prerequisites for these feats to select them as bonus feats.

So, if I take Improved Two Weapon Fighting at level 8 without taking Two-Weapon fighting first, can I use this to qualify for Greater Two-Weapon fighting later? Can I use it to qualify for Double rend?

Not sure how these bonus feats that don't need prerequisite works :)

[CBDunkerson]

Hubbaman wrote:

So, if I take Improved Two Weapon Fighting at level 8 without taking Two-Weapon fighting first, can I use this to qualify for Greater Two-Weapon fighting later? Can I use it to qualify for Double rend?

You can take Improved Two-Weapon Fighting as a bonus feat w/o Two-Weapon Fighting, but then you don't get the benefit of Two-Weapon Fighting... and all your attacks are at -6 for the primary hand and -10 for the off hand.

You could NOT then take Greater Two-Weapon Fighting or Two-Weapon Rend as normal feats because both have Two-Weapon Fighting as a prerequisite. If they only had Improved Two-Weapon Fighting listed OR were taken as bonus feats (Two-Weapon Rend is on the list at 10th level), then you could take them, but would still suffer the penalties from not having Two-Weapon Fighting.

[Hubbaman]

Right, sound reasonable.

I guess Greater weapon focus and specialization are better canditates for this kind of dropping feats then.

Taking Improved Precise shoot as a bonus feat without going the route is smart right? No drawbacks there?

[CBDunkerson]

You'd get the benefit of Improved Precise Shot, but still take -4 on shooting into melee because you didn't have Precise Shot.

[Hubbaman]

oh, I thought that was a cover thing.

Thanks a lot for the help!