How much burn does an Gravitic Boost Composite Blast cost?

[swoosh]

Some table arguments earlier today over the title question.

Is it 3 burn, for the cost of the composite blast plus taking one additional burn?

Or is it 5 burn, for the cost of the composite plus the cost of gravitic plus one extra burn for applying gravitic to a composite?

Tending toward the former, because paying nearly as much as doublecast for something weaker than empower doesn't really make any sense, but the wording is vague enough and the kineticist is held back in a lot of other regards in ways that don't make sense, so I could see the latter being the case.

[Faelyn]

If you are referring to the ability to add Gravitic Boost to another Composite blast at 15th level, then it would be 5 Burn. 2 Burn for your Composite blast, 2 for Gravitic, and then an additional 1 Burn as mentioned in the Gravitic boost text. Doesn't really sound worth it to me... For that amount of Burn you can empower or maximize your blast and get a much large net amount of damage.

[swoosh]

Yes that's what I'm referring to.

A straight reading seems to agree with you, but with how terrible of an ability that would be I assumed I was reading it incorrectly and that you could enhance your blast for merely one additional burn.

I mean two levels before that you get quicken for the same price which effectively doubles your blasting DRP.

[Faelyn]

I agree. Unless there is something I am unaware of... It definitely is not a good option in my mind to use it on a composite blast. It kind of reminds me of Aetheric Boost... It sounds good at first until you realize for the amount of Burn you have to mitigate, it's better to just use Maximize on your Simple Blast. Not all options are necessarily good options... lol

[Mark Seifter]

Aetheric + Composite should cost 3. Gravitic + Composite should also cost 3. And Aetheric + Gravitic + Void/Force Composite (the only possible way to add both) should be 4.

[Faelyn]

Mark Seifter wrote:

Aetheric + Composite should cost 3. Gravitic + Composite should also cost 3. And Aetheric + Gravitic + Void/Force Composite (the only possible way to add both) should be 4.

Okay, now that makes it a lot better! Straight from the horses mouth. Thank you for the input, Mark! I was very wrong and glad to be wrong.

[Mark Seifter]

Faelyn wrote:

Mark Seifter wrote:

Aetheric + Composite should cost 3. Gravitic + Composite should also cost 3. And Aetheric + Gravitic + Void/Force Composite (the only possible way to add both) should be 4.

Okay, now that makes it a lot better! Straight from the horses mouth. Thank you for the input, Mark! I was very wrong and glad to be wrong.

Hey now, it's not on you that you were wrong :) I can totally see the confusion/ambiguity.

[Faelyn]

Mark Seifter wrote:

Faelyn wrote:

Mark Seifter wrote:

Aetheric + Composite should cost 3. Gravitic + Composite should also cost 3. And Aetheric + Gravitic + Void/Force Composite (the only possible way to add both) should be 4.

Okay, now that makes it a lot better! Straight from the horses mouth. Thank you for the input, Mark! I was very wrong and glad to be wrong.

Hey now, it's not on you that you were wrong :) I can totally see the confusion/ambiguity.

Now, here's an interesting question for you... For an Aetheric, Gravitic Force Composite... Would it be 1d8+1 per two kineticist levels? And then for Void it would be 2d8+4 per two kineticist levels?

I am curious on the Void once since Aetheric boost states it grants a +1 bonus per damage dice. So does that mean you gain a +1 for every single damage die? Or does that mean you gain a +1 per pairing of damage die?

*EDIT*

Wow... I just dice some number crunching. If my thoughts on the Aetheric, Gravitic Void Composite are correct... One could potentially do 336 damage with an Empowered, Maximized Aetheric, Gravitic Void Composite blast with only a total Burn cost of 5 after Composite Spec and Metakinetic Master. Due a 1.5 round Supercharge and obliterate your enemy for free! Add on pretty much any infusions you want for free (I love you Infusion Specialization)! That's nasty...

[swoosh]

Thanks Mark! I was hoping that was the right answer but the way the effect was written it was really unclear. Clarification makes me a lot happier.