| Lazarus696 |
Hello all,
A player in my gaming group is a 10th level Paladin. He recently took the leadership feat and the DM allowed him to have a Griffon as his cohort and is willing to let him use it as his bonded mount.
There is a bit of confusion as to what it's stats would be. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
| OldSkoolRPG |
Use the stats for the Griffon monstrous mount.
[PFS Legal] Griffon
Source Inner Sea Combat pg. 14 (Amazon)
Monster Entry LinkPrerequisites Diplomacy, Intimidate, or Handle Animal 5 ranks; Ride 5 ranks
Starting Statistics: Size Large; Speed 30 ft., fly 40 ft. (average; unable to carry a rider while flying); AC +4 natural armor; Attack bite (1d6); Ability Scores Str 16, Dex 15, Con 16, Int 5, Wis 13, Cha 8; Special Qualities darkvision 60 ft., low-light vision, scent; Languages Common (cannot speak).7th-Level Advancement: AC +2 natural armor; Attack bite (1d6), 2 talons (1d6); Speed 40 ft., fly 80 ft. (average; unable to carry a ride while flying); Ability Scores Str +2, Con +2; Special Attacks pounce, rake (1d6).
Mastery (7th Level) The griffon can carry a rider while flying, but reduces its fly speed by half while doing so.
You first need the Monstrous Companion feat to even qualify for a griffon. Then you need the Monstrous Mount Mastery feat for said griffon to be able to fly while you are mounted.
| Fuzzy-Wuzzy |
You first need the Monstrous Companion feat to even qualify for a griffon. Then you need the Monstrous Mount Mastery feat for said griffon to be able to fly while you are mounted.
Isn't that feat for animal companions gained through a class feature? He's getting his as a cohort, so I don't think it's needed. Good source for stats though. I would use the 7th-level version from the get-go.
| OldSkoolRPG |
OldSkoolRPG wrote:You first need the Monstrous Companion feat to even qualify for a griffon. Then you need the Monstrous Mount Mastery feat for said griffon to be able to fly while you are mounted.Isn't that feat for animal companions gained through a class feature? He's getting his as a cohort, so I don't think it's needed. Good source for stats though. I would use the 7th-level version from the get-go.
OP explicitly said the GM was allowing the Paladin to take the griffon as a bonded mount.
He recently took the leadership feat and the DM allowed him to have a Griffon as his cohort and is willing to let him use it as his bonded mount.
Getting it as a cohort is one thing but getting it as a bonded mount has other requirements. If it is just a cohort than it just gets the stats of the griffon in the bestiary. If he wants it to be a bonded mount then uses the rules for such.
| Lazarus696 |
The 2 of you hit exactly on the confuse I feel. As I understand it the DM is allowing him to skip the Monstrous Companion feat. Thus allowing him to have the followers and griffon from the Leadership Feat. I guess he didn't want to over tax him on feats. DM's call there.
I don't think the intent was to give him class levels and bonded mount progression. Or maybe it was. I'll ask him later today.
Which of the 2 would be better or more appropriate in your opinion?