| Chance Wade |
Hello all, I was wondering if someone can help me find a rule that I'm like 90% sure I've seen somewhere but for the life of me can't find now. The rule I'm referencing is when you lose a low-level class feature (through an archetype or something of the sort), but gain it's higher level version later. I swear there is a rule that says to set the class feature back a tier in those cases, but I can't think of where I saw it or a concise way to search for it.
The specific case I'm looking at in regards to this rule is for the Kapenia Dancer archetype of the Magus. At 1st level the Kapenia Dancer loses all armor proficiencies but at the 7th and 13th levels still receives Medium and Heavy armor proficiencies respectively. So if the rule I mentioned does exist they should instead receive Light armor proficiency at the 7th level and Medium armor proficiency at the 13th. Any help is appreciated, even if it's just to tell me that this rule doesn't exist and I'm crazy.
| Yrtalien |
Ultimate Magic p 14
If an archetype replaces a class ability that is part of a series of improvements or additions to a base ability (such as a fighter’s weapon training or a ranger’s favored enemy), the next time the character would gain that ability, it counts as the lower-level ability that was replaced by the archetype.
In effect, all abilities in that series are delayed until the next time the class improves that ability. For example, if an archetype replaces a rogue’s +2d6 sneak attack bonus at 3rd level, when she reaches 5th level and gains a sneak attack bonus, her sneak attack doesn’t jump from +1d6 to +3d6— it improves to +2d6, just as if she had finally gained the increase at 3rd level. This adjustment continues for every level at which her sneak attack would improve, until at 19th level she has +9d6 instead of the +10d6 of a standard rogue.
| Chance Wade |
Ultimate Magic p 14
If an archetype replaces a class ability that is part of a series of improvements or additions to a base ability (such as a fighter’s weapon training or a ranger’s favored enemy), the next time the character would gain that ability, it counts as the lower-level ability that was replaced by the archetype.
In effect, all abilities in that series are delayed until the next time the class improves that ability. For example, if an archetype replaces a rogue’s +2d6 sneak attack bonus at 3rd level, when she reaches 5th level and gains a sneak attack bonus, her sneak attack doesn’t jump from +1d6 to +3d6— it improves to +2d6, just as if she had finally gained the increase at 3rd level. This adjustment continues for every level at which her sneak attack would improve, until at 19th level she has +9d6 instead of the +10d6 of a standard rogue.
Thank you very much. Not being able to find that was annoying me to no end. You, sir, are a saint.