Gunslinger Weapon Training


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I thought that Gunslinger's

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Gun Training (Ex):
Starting at 5th level, a gunslinger can select one specific type of firearm (such as an axe musket, blunderbuss, musket, or pistol). She gains a bonus equal to her Dexterity modifier on damage rolls when firing that type of firearm. Furthermore, when she misfires with that type of firearm, the misfire value of that firearm increases by 2 instead of 4.

Every four levels thereafter (9th, 13th, and 17th), the gunslinger picks up another type of firearm, gaining these bonuses for those types as well.

and every other [weapon of choice] Training (Ex) abilities were equivalent of Fighter's

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Weapon Training (Ex):
Starting at 5th level, a fighter can select one group of weapons, as noted below. Whenever he attacks with a weapon from this group, he gains a +1 bonus on attack and damage rolls.

Every four levels thereafter (9th*, 13th, and 17th), a fighter becomes further trained in another group of weapons. He gains a +1 bonus on attack and damage rolls when using a weapon from this group. In addition, the bonuses granted by previous weapon groups increase by +1 each. For example, when a fighter reaches 9th level, he receives a +1 bonus on attack and damage rolls with one weapon group and a +2 bonus on attack and damage rolls with the weapon group selected at 5th level. Bonuses granted from overlapping groups do not stack. Take the highest bonus granted for a weapon if it resides in two or more groups.

but, then I found

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Marksman's Utility (Weapon Mastery)

Prerequisite(s): Base attack bonus +6, weapon training class feature with a ranged weapon.

Special: A gunslinger can ignore the weapon training class feature prerequisite of Marksman's Deed.

So Gun Training =/= a weapon training class feature with a ranged weapon?

Scarab Sages

No. Gun Training, and Swashbuckler Weapon Training are distinct abilities and do not count as Fighter Weapon Training.


The fighter class feature is notable for having weapon groups as well as the +'s.

So typically, you need the class feature to reference weapon groups, or explicitly reference fighter's weapon training as the source of its abilities, in order for it to count.

Gunslingers and swashbucklers do not count.

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