S / HR / H: Multiclassing Feats


Homebrew and House Rules


These have probably been done elsewhere, but I was wondering why there weren't feats for multiclassing.

Proposed Feat:

Quote:


Advanced Attack Bonus
You have devoted extra attention to combat as part of multiclassing.
Prerequisites: Levels in more than one class.
Benefit: You gain a +1 bonus to your BAB. This bonus cannot increase your BAB to a number above your character level.
Special: You may take this feat a second time at 5th level and a third time at 11th level. The effects stack.

I feel pretty good about that feat, but still welcome constructive criticism. The next feat is what I can't quite figure out. It just seems too powerful, but I can't think of a way to break it up that won't hurt hybrid classes more than full casters.

Quote:


Advanced Special Abilities
You have devoted extra attention to the abilities of one of your classes as part of multiclassing.
Prerequisites: Levels in more than one class.
Benefit: Choose a class you possess. You may treat your levels in that class as one higher for determining special abilities of that class. This does not include mundane abilities granted by all classes, such as BAB, Skills, etc. This feat cannot increase your effective level in an ability to be higher than your character level.
Special: If you lose normal access to the chosen class, this feat ceases to function until you regain access to that class. You may take this feat a second time at 5th level and a third time at 11th level. The effects stack.


For both feats I would add that your bab, caster level, class level, skill ranks, etc. cannot exceed your character level.

Liberty's Edge

What the heck is S / HR / H?


Ciaran Barnes wrote:
For both feats I would add that your bab, caster level, class level, skill ranks, etc. cannot exceed your character level.

I felt like those issues were already addressed in the feats. The first feat simply does nothing more than give you a +1 BAB, so I'm not sure why someone would think that would give additional abilities.

The second feat has text to the effect of what you said, though that feat is currently intended to increase some of those aspects. The problem is that I can't figure out a way to split up the spells from the other special class abilities without being overly beneficial to pure casters or overly punishing to hybrids.


Sorry I focused on one part and missed another.


Suggestions on wording change for the second feat:

Quote:
You may treat your levels in that class as one higher in regards to all special abilities of that class that you possess. For example: if you have 5 levels of Fighter and chose this feat for Fighter, you would count as a 6th level Fighter for Armor Training and Weapon Training, but not for bonus combat feats or fighter only feats.


Marc Radle wrote:
What the heck is S / HR / H?

I'd like to know too.


Ciaran Barnes wrote:
Marc Radle wrote:
What the heck is S / HR / H?
I'd like to know too.

I'm at the edge of my seat


S / HR / H is short for Suggestions / House Rules / Homebrew.

A little redundant, but...

To the feats at hand, they seem solid enough. I'd try this wording for the second feat:

Benefit: Choose a class you have levels in. You treat your class level as one higher for determining the special class features of that class (items listed in the Special column of the respective class table). This does not increase your actual level, base attack bonus, saving throw modifiers, hit dice, or skill points in regards to your selected class, nor can your increased class level be higher than your character level or total hit dice.
Special: You cannot select prestige classes for this feat. You can only choose a class that you can normally take levels in. For example, a Chaotic Neutral Rogue with levels in Monk cannot use this feat to increase his Monk special class features.

Liberty's Edge

Dot for multiclassing goodness


I'm still afraid the second feat is a bit too powerful for all it does. Does anyone have thoughts on that feat also giving you a -1 penalty on saves? One of the usual benefits of multi classing is the higher than normal saves, so it feels appropriate to me. And it has the side effect of being a little tougher on pure casters than hybrids.


Instead of determining special abilities, perhaps it only determines the effects of the special abilities you already have. So no free rage power as a feat after dipping only 1 level into Barbarian.

Advanced Attack Bonus should simply be the fractional BAB rules.

I'd say that a feat similar to Shapeshifting Hunter, Monastic Legacy, or the Oracle Curse ability would be good. You get benefits to special ability scaling on both sides if you have similar classes, or benefits for a single special ability equal to 1/2 level for classes other than the chosen class.

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