Hi all,
This seems like the right forum.
I have an archaeologist whip master bard that has been angling to get a ghost touch net/whip for some nifty ghost-fighting tricks. Something that occurred to me, though, was the potential of using weapon blanches on said weapons (or any weapon that isn't metal/dense enough to not burn). The rules don't seem to bar it, and thematically it's not hard to imagine passing an item over flame enough to coat it without harming the whip/net. Leather and Hemp aren't easily flammable.
Seems like a much cheaper method than enchanting.
Still, I can't help but feel I might get a few looks at a PFS table. Thoughts?
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Based on the material hardness and hp table, leather has hardness 2 and 5hp, assuming a whip is one inch thick. An open flame does 1d6 of fire damage. Energy damage is halved before applied to object hardness, so the max damage possible from the flame is 1 point of damage. However, with the very small hitpoints of a whip, if you do it frequently, you could destroy the whip.
Fair point. I expected more to just have a few backup whips/nets coated with ghost salt just in case, rather than use it on my main weapon.
Not likely to be refolding my nets in combat :P
The whip would also be to grapple with whip mastery feats, which I assumed would work until they broke the grapple, though now I'm wondering if it would fade after the first round... Hm.
Incorporeal creatures cannot make trip or grapple attacks, nor can they be tripped or grappled.
What, so we're not gonna have some 600 post debate on "just because the rules clearly and concisely say x, the intent is obviously y, and my interpretation is just as valid even though it's based on nothing more than wishful thinking"?
Seriously though, I'd house rule that Incorporeal creatures can grapple and be grappled by each other or ghost touch weapons. But that's a house rule.
What, so we're not gonna have some 600 post debateI don't see a reason to, unless I'm missing something.
Sorry, that wasn't really directed at you, just venting some frustration from some of the more recent threads.
Didn't know that about grappling. I'll have to check with the GM, but I suspect they'll be okay with it.
Still, nets should work since they entangle, rather than grappling.
Edit- thanks for the tip on the force net. Doesn't seem like it has much on a regular ghost touch net though. Aside from working on gaseous creatures, I guess.
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Incorporeal creatures cannot make trip or grapple attacks, nor can they be tripped or grappled.
Ah, I was looking at the subtype, not the quality. Stupid PRD. Still, seems like this is written about the most common interactions one would have with incorporeal creatures (corporeal against incorporeal)...seems like it would make sense to allow them to grapple each other or allow appropriate ghost touch stuff to do the same. Granted, it's not RAW, but it's pretty solid RAI.
Metal whips exist in Pathfinder. Presumably you could even get a non-enchanted 5 lb metallic whip for less than 50 gp, except maybe in PFS since it's not in the equipment tables.