| WilliamInnocent |
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Now my group and I have been discussing this and with all the help with the forums we cant seem to get a direct answer.
Simple answer is fine. Does Judgement Healing get the Benefits of the Feat Fast Healer?
Judgement
Healing: The inquisitor is surrounded by a healing light, gaining fast healing 1. This causes the inquisitor to heal 1 point of damage each round as long as the inquisitor is alive and the judgment lasts. The amount of healing increases by 1 point for every three inquisitor levels she possesses.
Fast Healer
Benefit: When you regain hit points by resting or through magical healing, you recover additional hit points equal to half your Constitution modifier (minimum +1).
I've seen this argued couple ways but loopholes keep spearing. if Judgement is a Supernatural ability and you gain Fast Healing X through Magical means then Fasting Healing X would itself be magical. Then you would receive the +1 bonus with Fast Healer because it states through resting or magical healing.
Now while in combat you are considered not resting so that removes the first clause of Fast Healer. Then many say Fasting Healing is not magical at all so there fore you cannot receive the bonus unless resting. But you can only activate a judgment in combat. See the Problem?
All that aside I guess the main question is, Can you use your Supernatural Ability 'Judgement' In an AntiMagic field or can it be dispelled? Not the healing but the judgement itself?
To answer that
Supernatural Abilities (Su)
Supernatural abilities are magical but not spell-like. Supernatural abilities are not subject to spell resistance and do not function in areas where magic is suppressed or negated (such as an antimagic field). A supernatural ability's effect cannot be dispelled and is not subject to counterspells. See Table: Special Ability Types for a summary of the types of special abilities.
Quote:Can dispel magic and similar spells dispel the effects of abilities of that type? Supernatural Ability : No
Does an antimagic field or similar magic suppress the ability? Supernatural Ability : Yes
In terms of Dispel, Judgement not Magical, It terms of Antimagic Fields, Judgement is Magical.
Judgment = Supernatural Ability = Magical. Judgement Healing Can Benefit from Fast Healer
As For my math on the subject check below. Before anyone says that Fast Healer would Break Judgement: Healing take a look at the math below. Fast Healing doesn't add as much as one thinks.
I have a Dwarf with racial bonuses
Add +½ to the inquisitor’s level for the purpose of determining the effects of one type of judgment.
If yes:
Level 1 Inquisitor (No Con Modifier):
Healer Activated; Fast Healing 1
Level 10 Inquisitor (+1 Con Modifier):
Healer Activated; Fast Healing 5 + 1(Fast Healer) [6 health a round]
Level 20 Inquisitor (+2 Con Modifier):
Healer Activated; Fast Healing 11 + 1(Fast Healer) [13 health a round]
Explanation of Healing Judgement
1 (1 healing)
2
3 (2 healing)
4
5
6 (3 healing)+(1 healing From +½ Racial Trait)
7
8
9 (4 healing)
10
11
12 (5 healing)+(2 healing From +½ Racial Trait)
13
14
15 (6 healing)
16
17 (Slayer add +5 to her level to one judgement. 7 healing/slayer)
18 (7 healing/slayer)+(3 healing From +½ Racial Trait)
19 (8 healing w/ slayer)
20 (8 healing w/ slayer)
If anyone can prove me wrong. I wont be upset just accept what it is. At this point i kind of just want to email Paizo.
| CampinCarl9127 |
The judgement does not grant you 1hp per round as a supernatural ability. It grants you an extraordinary ability through a supernatural ability. The bonus healing does not work, and the effects do not function in an antimagic field.
Imagine it this way. Say a spell grants you wings for 10 rounds/cast. The spell itself does not grant you flight, but it provides you with a nonmagical way to fly. However the nonmagical ability is still being fueled by a magical ability. If the spell ceases to function then the wings will go away. The same is true of the question here. Fast healing functions I'm an antimagic field, but since judgement does not and the judgement is fueling the fast healing, it does not function in an antimagic field.
| WilliamInnocent |
The judgement does not grant you 1hp per round as a supernatural ability. It grants you an extraordinary ability through a supernatural ability. The bonus healing does not work, and the effects do not function in an antimagic field.
Imagine it this way. Say a spell grants you wings for 10 rounds/cast. The spell itself does not grant you flight, but it provides you with a nonmagical way to fly. However the nonmagical ability is still being fueled by a magical ability. If the spell ceases to function then the wings will go away. The same is true of the question here. Fast healing functions I'm an antimagic field, but since judgement does not and the judgement is fueling the fast healing, it does not function in an antimagic field.
I Didnt look at Healing as an Extraordinary ability. I assumes if it was being fueled by Supernatural Ability i.e. Magical it itself would be magical.
But if i walked into a Antimagic Field while a judgement healing was active would i not loose Fast Healing X. Or do i keep it until the end of combat.
| CampinCarl9127 |
Fast healing IS an extraordinary ability. The existence of the extraordinary ability is being fueled by the supernatural ability.
If you walk into an antimagic field you no longer have your judgements active. Since you no longer have your judgements active, you no longer have any effects of your judgements, and that includes fast healing.
| WilliamInnocent |
Fast healing IS an extraordinary ability. The existence of the extraordinary ability is being fueled by the supernatural ability.
If you walk into an antimagic field you no longer have your judgements active. Since you no longer have your judgements active, you no longer have any effects of your judgements, and that includes fast healing.
I figured as much, Outside not being able to use Fast Healer for that. Did i do my math right?
At level 20 i would have Fast Healing 12.
For some reason, somewhere i heard you cant have Fasting healing past 5? Maybe it was just someone in passing.