Strangler Archetype and Monk's Robe


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So, it's nice and explicit that Monk's Robe interacts with Brawlers but for the Strangler Archetype you give up class features that are affected by the robe. However, the way it looks by reading makes it seem like the Monk's Robe could actually sidestep some of the class features you give up just by wearing the robe.

Brawler's Martial Training:
At 1st level, a brawler counts her total brawler levels as both fighter levels and monk levels for the purpose of qualifying for feats. She also counts as both a fighter and a monk for feats and magic items that have different effects based on whether the character has levels in those classes (such as Stunning Fist and a monk's robe). This ability does not automatically grant feats normally granted to fighters and monks based on class level, namely Stunning Fist..

Monk's Robe:
When worn, this simple brown robe confers great ability in unarmed combat. If the wearer has levels in monk, her AC and unarmed damage is treated as a monk of five levels higher. If donned by a character with the Stunning Fist feat, the robe lets her make one additional stunning attack per day. If the character is not a monk, she gains the AC and unarmed damage of a 5th-Level monk (although she does not add her Wisdom bonus to her AC). This AC bonus functions just like the monk's AC bonus.

So, for the Brawler (Strangler) which gives up the AC bonus class feature, how does the AC bonus of the robe interact? Do you:
-still get the bonus from a monk of your level plus 5
-get the bonus of a 5th level monk
-get no bonus because you gave that up but are still counted as a monk as far as the robe is concerned?

Additionally, the Stranglers get unarmed strike damage equal to a base-Brawler of its level minus 4 (because it gives up the Unarmed Strike class feature but it keeps Close Weapon Mastery). With that in mind, how does Monk's Robe affect the unarmed strike damage of a Strangler? Do you:
-still get the US damage from a monk of your level plus 5
-get the US damage from a monk of your level plus 1 (-4+5)?

Now, I know which way I would rule them at my table but I'm curious what the correct reading is for this combination.


bump for input, please


"If the wearer has levels in monk, her AC and unarmed damage is treated as a monk of five levels higher __________________."

There's an unstated part to that sentence, but imho the appropriate thing to put in that blank is "than what she currently counts as for the purposes of AC and unarmed damage".

Thus, such a brawler would receive:
AC of a 5th level monk + wisdom bonus
UAS damage of her level +1


That's certainly how I would rule it, glad to have an assenting voice.

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