Dragon Crushing Actions


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At the risk of sounding thick (been starting threads left, right, and centre recently), can someone clear up dragon crush attacks please?

My first question is, does the dragon have to make a CMB check against each PC to maintain the pin? Or just make one, and each PC compares their CMD against it?

My second question is, what actions can a dragon take while maintaining the pin? Is it like a normal grapple where it can also choose to inflict damage as part of the check(on top of the usual crush damage)? Or does maintaining the pin deny the dragon this?

Personally, I think the answers to these are:
1) The Dragon must make a CMB check against each PC in the pin.
2) It doesn't work like a normal grapple-- the dragon cannot attack or use its breath weapon while maintaining a pin. Its just that in a normal grapple, the controller doesn't have to refresh the pin every round, so I'm unsure.

However, I want to check how everyone else runs this.

Thanks.

EDIT: There's a similar thread on EN World, but that's 3.5, so isn't that helpful.


For simplicity's sake, I'd say a single CMB check against all CMDs would be easiest. I'm not sure what the rules-legal version is, though.


I'm with you on that. Its the second question that needs answering now.

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