| WhiteMagus2000 |
Does anyone know if its legal to get both the Infiltrator and Wild Hunter
on the same (ranger) character?
While neither replace the same class features, infiltrator's adaptation is based off your favored enemy selection, which you wouldn't have. Does this just not work, or does the common sense solution apply, like with camouflage and hide in plain sight.
Seems like you should just pick a favored enemy when you get adaptation, for the purpose of this class feature only, but I'm not sure if thats technically legal. Anyone know? Thanks.
Also does anyone know the action that is used to activate adaptation? It doesn't say (or I just missed it).
| Bob Bob Bob |
Yes, it's legal (neither touch the same class features).
Yes, it's also useless (well, the Infiltrator side). Sorry.
A good houserule would be what you propose, but it would most certainly be a houserule (and you're unlikely to find official support of some kind). The camouflage and hide in plain sight thing was fixed because the archetype by itself had problems, they don't usually issue rulings for archetype stacking issues.
| Lilith Knight |
As it's written there are two ways to read it:
1) you can choose both and you just get no benefit from adaptation because you have no favored enemies to choose so you can gain any on 0 abilities.
2) You can't take both these archetypes because one modifies an ability and the other gets rid of it.
Neither of these is really actually the right way to read it. The first one doesn't really make sense and the adaptation isn't actually a modification of the ability, its an additional ability on top of it. But it would be prudent to treat it as a modification of favored enemy for whether or not you can take multiple archetypes.
TLDR: It's weird and maybe you technically could but even if you can you can't benefit from adaptation without favored enemies so just don't do it.
| WhiteMagus2000 |
Damn. I love rangers, but I don't like favored terrain or enemy. They are just very unreliable. And I've never had a DM/GM that will give my favored enemy bonus unless I can idenitfy my enemy. Sounds easy, and generally is, but aberrations sometimes look like outsiders, outsiders look like undead, etc.
Hmmmm..... which favored do I hate more....