Mythic Brew Potion + Wish + Alchemical Allocation

[Repsac]

The concept is simple but I would like to know if RAW, it's possible or if I have missed a rule saying you can't:
1) Get Mythic Brew Potion.
2) Create a potion of wish to, for instance, increase your INT.
3) Alternate between alchemical allocation and your potion of wish.
4) If needed, have an ability to drink those two within 1 round, like the Potion Glutton feat and Quick Draw Mythic, or have someone touching you with Poisoner's Gloves & Alchemical Allocation. That's for the prerequisite saying "Two to five wish spells cast in immediate succession can grant a creature a +2 to +5 inherent bonus to an ability score".

If it's allowed, then you get a +5 inherent bonus to one ability for roughly 30K GP.
Well, it's bound to be patched by any sane GM but I'm still curious.

[haremlord]

By RAW, do you count 3pp? Because Mythic Brew Potion is not from Paizo.

[LazarX]

Wish is not a spell eligible for potion use.

[Repsac]

Oh... Guess I didn't read the SRD properly.
Thanks for the info.
I usually don't play with 3pp, and that's one example why (too much a hassle to evaluate what is reasonably balanced and what's not).

EDIT: LazarX -> with this 3pp feat, it seems to be, and that's the problem.

[LazarX]

Repsac wrote:

Oh... Guess I didn't read the SRD properly.

Thanks for the info.
I usually don't play with 3pp, and that's one example why (too much a hassle to evaluate what is reasonably balanced and what's not).

EDIT: LazarX -> with this 3pp feat, it seems to be, and that's the problem.

This part of the forum is for Paizo rules questions. 3rd Party you should take to homebrew, and the answer in that case is going to be always of the following form...

"If the GM allows it."

Because in effect, the moment you start talking third party, you're not talking a Pathfinder game.... you're talking about Pathfinder and some unknown foreign rules set.

[Weirdo]

Actually we have a 3pp forum - Homebrew is for stuff that isn't published at all.

And I don't think this is hard to evaluate this rule interaction.

Relevant part of (1):

Mythic Brew Potion wrote:

Additionally, there is no limit to the level of spell you can turn into a potion.

Pretty straight-forward. But to make a potion of Wish (2) we also need to refer to the potions rules:

Potions wrote:

A potion is a magic liquid that produces its effect when imbibed. Potions vary incredibly in appearance. Magic oils are similar to potions, except that oils are applied externally rather than imbibed. A potion or oil can be used only once. It can duplicate the effect of a spell of up to 3rd level that has a casting time of less than 1 minute and targets one or more creatures or objects.

Mythic Brew Potion removes the "spell up to 3rd level" restriction but leaves the "casting time of < 1 minute" and "targets one or more creatures or objects" restrictions. Wish clearly has a short enough casting time, but it is unclear whether it counts as a spell that "targets one or more creatures or objects;" the relevant line in the spell says "Target, Effect, Area: see text." The ability score enhancement seems to target a creature, but it's not actually stated. If this is the case, it would be impossible to make a Potion of Wish even with Mythic Brew Potion.

Given (1) and (2), (3) certainly works, since there is no limit on Alchemical Allocation that would prevent it being used for a Potion of Wish, if one existed. This is probably the step I'd apply a houserule in order to prevent abuse, since Mythic Brew Potion is fine on its own, and Alchemical Allocation can cause other balance issues with unusually potent Elixirs like the Elixir of Shadewalking.

I'd also probably require (4).

[Joesi]

You'd have to be CL 21 to do this alone. level 17 to use Wish, and level 4 to use AA.

A wizard and alchemist could in theory work together to get it done though if there weren't other problems.

The main problem being that wish isn't a potion-able spell in my opinion since it doesn't target a creature. It can affect a creature, but it does not make it potion-viable in my opinion just because of that. The real target is always the caster, making it a personal spell.