how to mess with your unchained eidolon and get away with it?


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Pathfinder Unchained wrote:
Eidolons and Alignment: Generally, the summoner controls the actions of his eidolon, even during combat, either through verbal commands or through the link ability, but this does not mean that the eidolon is a puppet that follows every command without question. Eidolons have been known to refuse actions that are against their ethoses or alignments (subject to the GM’s discretion) and are quick to chide the summoner about such requests. In addition, should the action of the summoner cause a shift in alignment such that the summoner’s alignment is more than one step away from the eidolon’s, the eidolon refuses the call of the summoner (although the summoner can still use his summon monster class feature). If the summoner manages to restore his alignment, the eidolon returns to his service.

We'll see about that!

You can't change your own alignment: if you do, your eidolon leaves.
If you put a helm of opposite alignment on yourself and you purposefully fail the saving throw: same thing, sayonara eidolon.
If someone else ties you up and sticks you with the whammy hat, and you fail the save honestly: Does your eidolon stick around?
If, under any circumstances, your eidolon ends up wearing the whammy hat: Does your eidolon stick around?
If you hand your eidolon an intelligent magic item with an Ego score that then dominates your eidolon: Does your eidolon stick around?
planar binding: At 16th level (ugh, and only at 16th level), a summoner could planar binding an unhappy eidolon. Would that work?

a) would any of these methods work to cajole or force an eidolon more than one alignment step away from you to remain in your service? Or, could these methods be used and then you can go about seeking redemption yourself?
b) does anyone have some better ideas about getting around the eidolon alignment restriction?


"ohako wrote:


b) does anyone have some better ideas about getting around the eidolon alignment restriction?

Step one, play in home game.

Step two, ask DM if you can ignore pointless rule.

Success.

It's rather disappointing to see the same onerous "do this and lose class features" effect from the Paladin replicated elsewhere.


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b) does anyone have some better ideas about getting around the eidolon alignment restriction?

Use the removing alignment rules.

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