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I know Mark Seifter explained here that if an Unchained Monk takes a Qinggong power that grants a monk class feature, you would still use the Unchained version of that class feature. I'm good with that, but I had two additional qinggong power-related questions for the Unchained Monk:
1) Do you also use the ki power cost of the Unchained Ki Power, or do you use the ki cost listed on the Qinggong page? (For example - Qinggong Diamond Soul costs 0 ki to use and is available at 14, while Ki Power Diamond Soul costs 1 ki to use and is available at 12.)
2) How exactly does Blood Crow Strike work? I've come up with three different interpretations, all of which have varying levels of effectiveness:
- (a) You flurry as part of the casting - the most useful interpretation, lets you blood crow flurry every round.
- (b) You cast for a round, and then you can flurry for free on the following round, followed by taking your actions as normal - Less useful than the first, as it takes up your first round with casting, but still good as you can flurry every round after that first one if you need to.
- (c) You cast for a round, then must use your actions on the following round to flurry - the least useful interpretation, this one makes it so you can only flurry every other round, rendering the power a waste.
1. You seem to have answered this question with your first sentence; you would use use the Unchained version of Diamond Soul even if you got it as a Qinggong power.
2. Blood Crow Strike has a casting time for 1 round:
"A spell that takes 1 round to cast is a full-round action. It comes into effect just before the beginning of your turn in the round after you began casting the spell. You then act normally after the spell is completed."
You would cast the spell on your turn as a full round action, but the spell doesn't trigger until just before your next turn. It triggers and then it is your turn to do whatever you like again and the previous spell has nothing to do with your actions here. The major downside of 1 round spells is that if enemies attack you before it triggers then you are forced to make concentration checks versus losing the spell, or alternatively, enemies could move or act in such a way as to make your spell meaningless, e.g. breaking line of effect so you have no target.
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1. You seem to have answered this question with your first sentence; you would use use the Unchained version of Diamond Soul even if you got it as a Qinggong power.
I know it's the Unchained version of the ability, but two costs are given. Which one do I use?
2. Blood Crow Strike has a casting time for 1 round:
"A spell that takes 1 round to cast is a full-round action. It comes into effect just before the beginning of your turn in the round after you began casting the spell. You then act normally after the spell is completed."
Thanks, I had missed the explicit "you then act normally after" provision. So it seems that by RAW the correct interpretation is #2 - not as powerful as the first but not as weak as the third. Cheers!
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1. You seem to have answered this question with your first sentence; you would use use the Unchained version of Diamond Soul even if you got it as a Qinggong power.I know it's the Unchained version of the ability, but two costs are given. Which one do I use?
You use the power as it appears in Unchained, including the ki cost to activate.
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You use the power as it appears in Unchained, including the ki cost to activate.
Psyren, I would rule that you use ALL features of the unchained version, including cost. Basicaly it fully replaces the normal version with the unchained version.
Gotcha - if that is the case, it means that that the Qinggong versions are available later for no reason and should not be selected.
Thanks all!