Thunderstomp and weapon bonuses

[FrodoOf9Fingers]

Thunderstomp in it's description says "You stomp your foot or strike your weapon against the ground or floor, creating a ripple of power that you can use to trip a creature." Now, perhaps I'm looking into this too much, but would you be able to use your weapon modifiers for the attempt since your weapon is being used in the process?

[DM_Blake]

I'm inclined to say no, just because it makes one flavor ("strike your weapon") far superior to the other flavor ("stomp your foot"). As written, it looks like those are two presumably equivalent options, but if weapon bonuses are a factor, they should have ONLY said "You strike your weapon against the ground..."

I would also say the ripple of power is doing the tripping, not the foot or weapon you used. Assuming your weapon makes a bigger ripple of power is like assuming a +3 sword that can cast fireball would create a fireball that does +3 damage, which just isn't true. Likewise, a +3 sword producing this ripple of power creates the same size ripple of power as a +0 sword, or a foot-stomp.

However, I'm sure this is a case for each GM to make his own call.

[SlimGauge]

Thunderstomp says to make a combat maneuver check, so all the things that normally affect such a check apply. The differences are spelled out in the spell text (CL instead of BAB, casting stat mod instead of str mod) but even those are OPTIONAL substitutions.

Your GM has final say, of course.

[FrodoOf9Fingers]

@SlimGauge

I realize that normal benefits apply (such as the bonus from improved and greater trip, and anything else that specifically increases your ability to trip people), but the question is more directed at weapon bonuses, which seem questionable to me O.o.

@Dm_Blake, I'm not entirely sure I your first point, strike your weapon and stomp your foot seems pretty even to me. If you had bonuses to your unarmed strike (which a foot stomp would be), then those apply (under my skewed perception of things that I'm pretty sure is wrong).

[burkoJames]

Just a a tripping weapon does not grant weapon bonuses to a trip attempt, a weapon used in a thunderstomp does not grant its bonuses to the associated CMB attempt.

[FrodoOf9Fingers]

burkoJames wrote:

Just a a tripping weapon does not grant weapon bonuses to a trip attempt, a weapon used in a thunderstomp does not grant its bonuses to the associated CMB attempt.

?? A tripping weapon does grant it's bonus to trip attempts... (every weapon does for that matter)

[DM Livgin]

I have to cast a vote in with team flavor on this one. It looks like a comment added for imaginative effect, and the spell has nothing to do with your weapon.

But it is a very convincing argument that Excalibur makes a better thunder-stomp than Ezren's broken old crossbow.