| Quintain |
This is a multipart question that kind of depends on the answers to previous questions, so bear with me.
Are there any examples in non-3PP pathfinder that allow someone to channel a ray through a weapon?
Ok, it looks like the Magus through a combination of the Close Range Magus Arcana and the Spellstrike class feature can channel a ray through a weapon.
Second question: With the magus above, the spellstrike ability says that he *can* deliver the spell through any weapon wielded. etc etc etc.
Now, let's say that the magus wants to add his weapon damage to the attack per spellstrike -- can he use a magic item (say the Gloves of Deliquesence) to attack as a melee touch attack and the gloves be considered to be the "weapon wielded"?
Diego Rossi
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Magus, Spell Combat: When using spell combat, do I specifically have to use the weapon in my other hand, or can I use a mixture of weapons (such as armor spikes and bites) so long as my casting hand remains free?
You specifically have to use the light or one-handed melee weapon in your other hand.
So you can't use the gloves with spell combat.
Spellstrike (Su): At 2nd level, whenever a magus casts a spell with a range of “touch” from the magus spell list, he can deliver the spell through any weapon he is wielding as part of a melee attack.
The Gloves of Deliquesence aren't a weapon, so you can't use spellstrike with them.
Brevick Axeflail
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The magus can deliver ray spells that feature a ranged touch attack as melee touch spells. He can use a ranged touch attack spell that targets more than one creature (such as scorching ray), but he makes only one melee touch attack to deliver one of these ranged touch effects; additional ranged touch attacks from that spell are wasted and have no effect. These spells can be used with the spellstrike class feature.
These heavy leather gloves ripple and flows at the wearer’s command, reshaping to fit any hand, claw, tentacle, or alien limb. The wearer’s melee touch attacks with that hand deal 1d6 points of acid damage. If the wearer uses that hand to wield a weapon or make an attack with an unarmed strike or natural weapon, that attack gains the corrosive weapon special ability.
If you convert Scorching Ray into a melee touch spell, and are wearing Deliquescent Gloves, you'd deal 4d6 fire plus 1d6 acid on a successful melee touch attack.
| Quintain |
You could use an unarmed strike as your weapon for spellstrike, and then add unarmed strike damage + spell damage +1d6 for corrosive granted by deliquescent gloves.
You would be attacking regular ac though, and cannot use the touch attack granted by the gloves.
If this is the case, how can Rogues sneak attack with deliquescent gloves?
Imbicatus
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Because they are using the touch attack granted by the gloves to attack, not spellstrike. The touch attack is not a weapon as defined by spellstrike.
However, as Brevick states, you can use Close Range without spellstrike to deliver a ray as a melee touch spell, and use deliquescent gloves to add 1d6 acid to that melee touch.
Diego Rossi
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The question isn't specifically about the abilities of close range and spellstrike, but more in a general sense of having an ability of channeling a ray into a weapon attack, and then have it use touch attack AC.
Unless the weapon has a very specific rule, a weapon can't make touch attacks. Gloves of Deliquesence or similar items aren't weapons for the rules.