Spell perfection, Empower spell, Idealize


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These three feats/discoveries SEEMS to be stacking, am i correct in the assumption that they do?

If so... having a +24 enhancement bonus might be worth building around, especially if you use something as "mass" bull strength/owls wisdom and so on.

Having this kind of buff on say... intellect would be a nice way to raise the DC of your wizard spells too.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/spell-perfection

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/metamagic-feats/empower-spell-metamagic---fin al

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/wizard/arcane-discoveries/arca ne-discoveries-paizo/idealize-su

EDIT* It´s just to bad you cant use this combination with augment summoning.


Empower doesn't work with Bull's Strength, Cat's Grace, Eagle's Splendor, Fox's Cunning, Owl's Wisdom, Bear's Endurance, or their Mass versions, as the bonus is not variable.

Made your links links: Spell Perfection, Empower Spell, and Idealize.

Idealize would work with them however, granting a total of +8 to the relevant ability score at 20th.


Ah thanks, i had some trouble figuring out how to make links, much appreciated.

It´s to bad that empower doesn´t work, or maybe it´s just as good that it don´t. :)


The reason Empower doesn't work, incidentally, is because "+4" is not a "variable, numeric modifier".

It's numeric, but +4 is a fixed integer rather than a die roll, so it fails to meet Empower's qualification.

Spell Perfection also doesn't double Idealize, as it's written, because Idealize is not a feat. You could maybe argue that one with a GM... maybe.

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