Determining random location?


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I'm getting ready to start the fourth scenario of the base set and had a question about the scenario. It states that when you defeat a bane with the undead trait you can shuffle it into a random location to place a boon under the scenario card. A few questions about this.
1. I assume you can do this with the scenarios henchmen? And if you do this with a henchmen can you still close the location before shuffling it in somewhere?
2. And most importantly, how do you determine a "random location"? I know with the villain you do it by shuffling blessings together and distributing them to the open locations, but if you do that with every undead character you encounter you could wind up with some massive location decks. I don't know how you could do this more than a few times and still have enough time to make it through the location decks looking for the villain.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

1. Yes, and yes. (Unless it's summoned, of course!)
2. Determine it however you like. Note that unlike the villain escaping, where it's ending up is not a secret—you're just putting the one card you defeated into one random location.


Great. Thanks for the quick answer Vic.


Ninja'd by Vic. I'd add that I usually just roll a die to determine random locations.


Yeah, that's what I usually do too. I also use dice rolls to determine a "random character" like some of the barriers talk about.


Editing massively for being ninja'd.

Wouldn't the scenario power (shuffle to stash a boon) apply before you did your closing attempt, due to the Golden Rule? Or is the scenario power an after-encounter effect (and therefore would follow the closing attempt because of "finish one thing"?) Not near my box, so it'll be a couple hours before I can check it.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

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The Golden Rule's hierarchy tells you what to do when cards conflict with one another; since it's possible to do what both of them say, there's no conflict here.

Instead, you have to look at when the cards tell you to do things. The scenario power says "when you defeat a non-villain bane," and the henchman's close power says "if defeated, you may immediately attempt to close." So both of them are triggered by the defeat, but the "immediately" on the henchman means you do that first. (If the word "immediately" hadn't been there, you would choose the order in which you do those things, and because you are smart, you would choose that order!)


I swear, I'm going to learn three new things about this game every day. Thanks again! :)

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